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Post by badbrad on Dec 13, 2017 9:51:33 GMT -6
If you notice in the picture that the balsam are growing on outer edge and humps in Tamarac. If it would be me I would get Tamarac, balsam and black spruce. I would plant the Tamarac in the wetter areas, the balsam on high spots in amongst the Tamarac and surround the whole thing with the black spruce. By your pictures I see that balsam grow good by you, black spruce is an unknown.I I have black spurce by me just not directly in this area.
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Post by terrifictom on Dec 13, 2017 10:02:16 GMT -6
If you notice in the picture that the balsam are growing on outer edge and humps in Tamarac. If it would be me I would get Tamarac, balsam and black spruce. I would plant the Tamarac in the wetter areas, the balsam on high spots in amongst the Tamarac and surround the whole thing with the black spruce. By your pictures I see that balsam grow good by you, black spruce is an unknown.I I have black spurce by me just not directly in this area. Cut one of your black spruce down and count the rings. That would tell you how fast you will see results from planting them.
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Post by wildfire123 on Dec 13, 2017 11:45:36 GMT -6
I had mentioned it in at a previous time, there is a fungus, or insect, that will start killing all tamarack.
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Post by benmnwi on Dec 13, 2017 12:37:53 GMT -6
That disease or insect killed about 95% of my large tamarack trees in my tamarack/black spruce swamp. There is a ton of young tamaracks coming in behind them, but I'm assuming they might croak at some point too. Planting a mixture of trees is always a good idea since something new could always pop up that takes out one species.
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Post by terrifictom on Dec 13, 2017 12:45:04 GMT -6
That disease or insect killed about 95% of my large tamarack trees in my tamarack/black spruce swamp. There is a ton of young tamaracks coming in behind them, but I'm assuming they might croak at some point too. Planting a mixture of trees is always a good idea since something new could always pop up that takes out one species. That is why I suggested 3 different species, there is a disease that effects spruce trees in Wisconsin. Never heard of problems with balsams yet.
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Post by wiscwhip on Dec 13, 2017 13:53:53 GMT -6
That disease or insect killed about 95% of my large tamarack trees in my tamarack/black spruce swamp. There is a ton of young tamaracks coming in behind them, but I'm assuming they might croak at some point too. Planting a mixture of trees is always a good idea since something new could always pop up that takes out one species. That is why I suggested 3 different species, there is a disease that effects spruce trees in Wisconsin. Never heard of problems with balsams yet. East and West coast's have been affected for a while now, I'm sure like every other invasive, it is just a matter of time before your balsams are toast as well............... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balsam_woolly_adelgidGetting closer every year........
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Post by terrifictom on Dec 13, 2017 15:08:21 GMT -6
That is why I suggested 3 different species, there is a disease that effects spruce trees in Wisconsin. Never heard of problems with balsams yet. East and West coast's have been affected for a while now, I'm sure like every other invasive, it is just a matter of time before your balsams are toast as well............... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balsam_woolly_adelgidGetting closer every year........ Guess it doesn't matter what a guy plants. An insect or disease is going to kill it.
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Post by wiscwhip on Dec 13, 2017 15:39:38 GMT -6
East and West coast's have been affected for a while now, I'm sure like every other invasive, it is just a matter of time before your balsams are toast as well............... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balsam_woolly_adelgidGetting closer every year........ Guess it doesn't matter what a guy plants. An insect or disease is going to kill it. It sure seems like it anymore?
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Post by gsquared23 on Jan 24, 2018 19:41:42 GMT -6
Rookie question, I'm sorry in advance for my ignorance, but are black spruce truly spruce and are they in the juniper family?
Reworded: will they be safe to plant around my apple trees and not be a source of CAR?
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Post by Freeborn on Jan 24, 2018 19:52:07 GMT -6
Rookie question, I'm sorry in advance for my ignorance, but are black spruce truly spruce and are they in the juniper family? Reworded: will they be safe to plant around my apple trees and not be a source of CAR? Not a rookie question at all, Black Spruce are not junipers so yes they are safe with Apple trees.
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Post by Sandbur on Jan 25, 2018 6:36:13 GMT -6
Somehow I missed this thread. I agree with planting a mixture of tamarack , black spruce, and balsam. Deer winter in my swamp of balsam with a few tamarack. I would not plant black hills spruce in low ground.
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Post by Sandbur on Jan 25, 2018 6:37:50 GMT -6
I planted the outer edges of my ash swamp with spruce and some balsam hoping to have cover when the ash borer arrives. I used plugs and bought a bar from Jim.
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Post by sd51555 on Jan 25, 2018 7:48:49 GMT -6
I planted the outer edges of my ash swamp with spruce and some balsam hoping to have cover when the ash borer arrives. I used plugs and bought a bar from Jim. How long ago was that? I’ve got a couple spots like that I’d like to thicken up. Any results yet?
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Post by Bwoods11 on Jan 25, 2018 12:06:22 GMT -6
Black Spruce is perfect for wet areas, but they grow slow, if it is slightly higher ground Black Hills Spruce has been a "winner" for me.
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Post by kl9 on Jan 25, 2018 12:08:27 GMT -6
Bwoods what do you plant for ideal cover at your Iowa farm?
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