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Post by kooch on Aug 19, 2018 19:33:54 GMT -6
I've been lurking in the older threads. Some of you are disturbed BTW.
Anyway, there's a bunch of talk about gypsum scattered throughout things. What is it? What will it do for my soil? And, what part of a soil test will tell me if it'll do me any good?
Thanks,
Kooch
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Aug 19, 2018 19:35:23 GMT -6
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Post by batman on Aug 19, 2018 19:35:23 GMT -6
It’s over the top obsessive compulsive crazy talk. This is a deer forum.
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Post by mnfish on Aug 19, 2018 19:49:45 GMT -6
The gypsum guy is probably busy right now watching women's wrestling while "petting" his cat Bob. I'm sure he will get to your question(s) as soon as possible and the answers he provides will have great meaning. Stay tuned...I know I am
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Post by Catscratch on Aug 19, 2018 19:58:04 GMT -6
Women's wrestling or gymnastics! Gypsum is the single most universal and important thing you can add to your soil. It's better than lime, nitrogen, and organic matter combined. That and it adds things like sulfur and calcium to the soil.
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Post by benmnwi on Aug 19, 2018 20:11:09 GMT -6
Nobody really knows what gypsum is, but sd said we really need it so some of us picked up a few bags at menards.
He might have just bought some stock in a gypsum mine and he is trying to drum up business, but I figured for $20 I'll give it a shot.
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Post by daydreamer on Aug 19, 2018 20:16:05 GMT -6
I can’t stop laughing at all of these replies while we all wait for SD to respond!!!
Love it!!
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Post by sd51555 on Aug 19, 2018 20:21:41 GMT -6
I’m pinned down right now watching Summerslam. Soon as my roommate wakes up, I can get at my laptop. Apparently, the US gymnastics championships are on regular NBC, but I don’t get OTA tv here.
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Post by sd51555 on Aug 19, 2018 20:24:43 GMT -6
Or not. Well played Cat. Well played.
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Post by kooch on Aug 19, 2018 20:30:39 GMT -6
I feel like I’m dredging up some unresolved emotion and conflict here. You’re welcome.
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Post by mnfish on Aug 19, 2018 20:46:54 GMT -6
Or not. Well played Cat. Well played. What in the hell are you feeding that cat?!? Maybe toss in a salad once in awhile Bob
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Post by sd51555 on Aug 19, 2018 21:00:23 GMT -6
We could talk for days on it (and have), but here's the shortest answer I can come up with... You can see nitrogen problems, phosphorus problems, and potassium problems. You can't see sulfur problems. I grew and had clover for years and used to argue with the Oracle of habitat about clover. He claimed it was the single best deer forage out there. I maintained it was worthless. I could grow the shit like no one else, only to see it never used. One day I come across some talk of sulfur and what it does in the soil. Outside all the necessary nutrient functions it provides, it's also the flavor nutrient. The deer were telling me my clover taste like shit, and they'd only eat it after it froze. So I decide I need sulfur. I can't find "sulfur" in any decent amounts at a decent price, so I finally come across gypsum which is calcium sulfate. Sulfate is the plant ready form of sulfur. It's simply a rock, dug up, crushed, and for us, formed back into a pellet. I went back and looked at my soil tests, and I had zero sulfate/sulfur. This is also why low priced soil tests are no deal. If you pay a third of the price of full test, you also only get a third of the information. So I decided to throw $15 at the idea and bought 3 bags and spread it on my trail clover. Now my clover looks like this the entire growing season. I just really like this picture.
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Post by sd51555 on Aug 19, 2018 21:12:45 GMT -6
Or not. Well played Cat. Well played. What in the hell are you feeding that cat?!? Maybe toss in a salad once in awhile Bob Don't be fat shaming my cat asshole. I've been trying to convert him to a grain-free wet-only diet, but without dry in the bowl overnight, you might just as well throw water on a gremlin. He'll be running in circles and knocking anything off elevated places that isn't nailed down. Then he'll come into the bedroom hit me in the nuts as he runs across the bed and then gets to banging on the window blinds as hard as he can. So he still gets some dry.
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Post by Catscratch on Aug 19, 2018 21:45:44 GMT -6
What in the hell are you feeding that cat?!? Maybe toss in a salad once in awhile Bob Don't be fat shaming my cat asshole. I've been trying to convert him to a grain-free wet-only diet, but without dry in the bowl overnight, you might just as well throw water on a gremlin. He'll be running in circles and knocking anything off elevated places that isn't nailed down. Then he'll come into the bedroom hit me in the nuts as he runs across the bed and then gets to banging on the window blinds as hard as he can. So he still gets some dry. Gets some dry?!? Probably should get the kennel, or kicked outside to fend for himself at night. A tennis racket thumped to the head would slow him from bouncing across your bed at night!
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Post by MoBuckChaser on Aug 19, 2018 21:54:46 GMT -6
I've been lurking in the older threads. Some of you are disturbed BTW. Anyway, there's a bunch of talk about gypsum scattered throughout things. What is it? What will it do for my soil? And, what part of a soil test will tell me if it'll do me any good? Thanks, Kooch Gypsum is a great source of Calcium. If your soil test says you just need calcium, use it. Gypsum helps improve soil structure.
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Post by Sandbur on Aug 20, 2018 6:20:44 GMT -6
So SD, how are the shares on gypsum and cat food doing?
You have almost convinced me to add gypsum to my soul for the new apple tree planting’s. I took the cheap soil test route.
If I put gypsum on the ground, will deer eat turnips and sugar beets instead of alfalfa, corn, sweet corn, soybeans, and edible beans? And of course apples.
About thirty years ago, an experienced foodbplotter told me that sulfur is the key for clover up north. I am trying to remember his name, Bob .... who sells foodplot seed in the Staples area. Not SD’s roommate either. Bob told me that sulfur can be more important than pH, and he was referring to red clover. Biglakebass knows his name as does Lee.
So the final word is ... buy stock in gypsum and cat food.
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