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Post by Sandbur on Apr 5, 2020 11:41:42 GMT -6
Would love to transform this area at my place to look like yours above. It is used for bedding a lot in spring and summer when the grass is standing and the willows and hazelnuts are holding leaves, but it is winter wasteland. I would be planting some spruce on the north and northeast side of those clumps of brush. Plant one or two. Keep those spruce just a bit shaded. I have had the winter sun kill them during low snow years. At some point, you will have to cut the brush back... maybe five to ten years after planting. It is also a real battle if that is reed canary grass. Try to pick areas of other grasses. Or spray small spots for next spring planting. When planting in RC and with no weed control, I liked spruce about knee high with as big of a football as I could carry. I was transplanting trees from other areas. Smaller spruce just did not make it in the RC.
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Post by smsmith on Apr 5, 2020 15:14:54 GMT -6
If you hit RCG in late summer/early fall with 4 oz./gallon of gly, it will die. The issue becomes dealing with adjacent rhizomes and the seed bank. Small patches are relatively easily controlled. Acres....not so much
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Post by honker on Apr 5, 2020 15:51:55 GMT -6
If you hit RCG in late summer/early fall with 4 oz./gallon of gly, it will die. The issue becomes dealing with adjacent rhizomes and the seed bank. Small patches are relatively easily controlled. Acres....not so much That’s what I have been doing to start creating some of those small plots in the my old pasture and old field areas. Just taking on small tenths of acre spots at a time.
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Post by wklman on Apr 5, 2020 15:55:58 GMT -6
I spray the rc with cleth every spring where my pines are planted. It doesn't kill it off but sets it back enough so that my pines can get going.
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Post by smsmith on Apr 5, 2020 15:57:27 GMT -6
I spray the rc with cleth every spring where my pines are planted. It doesn't kill it off but sets it back enough so that my pines can get going. Is that the field on your first place?
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Post by smsmith on Apr 5, 2020 16:05:44 GMT -6
If you hit RCG in late summer/early fall with 4 oz./gallon of gly, it will die. The issue becomes dealing with adjacent rhizomes and the seed bank. Small patches are relatively easily controlled. Acres....not so much That’s what I have been doing to start creating some of those small plots in the my old pasture and old field areas. Just taking on small tenths of acre spots at a time. One thing about ground that grows RCG well...is that it tends to be ground that grows clover well also. Summer/fall plantings of brassicas also tend to do well on that kind of soil.
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Post by honker on Apr 5, 2020 16:36:29 GMT -6
That’s what I have been doing to start creating some of those small plots in the my old pasture and old field areas. Just taking on small tenths of acre spots at a time. One thing about ground that grows RCG well...is that it tends to be ground that grows clover well also. Summer/fall plantings of brassicas also tend to do well on that kind of soil. Why is that do you think? Good to hear if it’s true since that is what I would be dealing with on most of my potential plot locations
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Post by Sandbur on Apr 5, 2020 17:18:20 GMT -6
One thing about ground that grows RCG well...is that it tends to be ground that grows clover well also. Summer/fall plantings of brassicas also tend to do well on that kind of soil. Why is that do you think? Good to hear if it’s true since that is what I would be dealing with on most of my potential plot locations RC grows best on my farm on wetter locations or on places with more moisture. The root mass of dead RC also provides lots of organic material for a few years, per my observations. The root mass of RC some what reminds of the roots on big bluestem clumps.
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Post by smsmith on Apr 5, 2020 18:52:18 GMT -6
One thing about ground that grows RCG well...is that it tends to be ground that grows clover well also. Summer/fall plantings of brassicas also tend to do well on that kind of soil. Why is that do you think? Good to hear if it’s true since that is what I would be dealing with on most of my potential plot locations RCG likes highly organic soils with good moisture content. So does white clover
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Post by wklman on Apr 5, 2020 19:31:10 GMT -6
I spray the rc with cleth every spring where my pines are planted. It doesn't kill it off but sets it back enough so that my pines can get going. Is that the field on your first place? Yep, that's at Bertha.
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Post by smsmith on Apr 5, 2020 19:36:35 GMT -6
Is that the field on your first place? Yep, that's at Bertha. That's some nice growth rates
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Post by nhmountains on Apr 5, 2020 19:55:48 GMT -6
Is that the field on your first place? Yep, that's at Bertha. Those pine should be ready to take off in growth.
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Post by wklman on Apr 5, 2020 20:12:55 GMT -6
That's some nice growth rates Most of that is Norway spruce I got from Wisconsin. Tough little trees. The taller trees are improved white pine seedlings I got from a tree giveaway. Those things love that heavy wet soil and are taking off like gangbusters. Had my 2 best bucks bedding next to them during early bow last year. They love those pines in that heavy grass.
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Post by jbird on Apr 6, 2020 10:53:25 GMT -6
I think I have a few places where it would do wonderful on my place, but I haven't taken the plunge just yet.....maybe next spring. Anybody know a source for cuttings or even bare root plants that are reasonably priced??? I snipped mine from bushes in my church parking lot. The kids call it stealing and I say it’s harvesting. I’ve never seen it growing wild around here but do see it as an ornamental. I could send you some. I'm not sure I would be able to repent enough if they are stolen.....from a church no less..... I have been struck by lightening once before...not sure I want to do that again! If I decide to give it a try I might let you know. I may see if I can find some locally that needs to be "harvested" as well.
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Post by Reagan on Apr 6, 2020 18:27:20 GMT -6
Hopefully I can harvest my own from the home stash next year. Would that be stolen once removed?
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