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Pigweed
Aug 3, 2021 15:15:55 GMT -6
Post by benmnwi on Aug 3, 2021 15:15:55 GMT -6
That's what I call regular pigweed.
I also have some stuff that kind of looks like that, but has a redish stem. It must be a pigweed relative of some sort and it seems to be more round-up resistant than the regular pigweed.
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Pigweed
Aug 3, 2021 18:06:37 GMT -6
Post by smsmith on Aug 3, 2021 18:06:37 GMT -6
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Post by MoBuckChaser on Aug 3, 2021 18:51:30 GMT -6
Some areas in the United States no herbicide will killer Palmer. One of the reasons we don’t buy bob food plot seed grown in southern states.
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Post by Foggy on Aug 3, 2021 19:28:07 GMT -6
Some areas in the United States no herbicide will killer Palmer. One of the reasons we don’t buy bob food plot seed grown in southern states. I've been getting excellent kills with that Interline you sold me MO. Problem is you gotta stay on top of it and get it as soon as it gets going.....as in days that chit is big with seeds. I am not 100% sure with the leaves in the description Stu gave vs what I got going on. As soon as I can get back to my land in a few days......I will use that guide Stu provided to compare my plants and the data shown. I printed the PDF version (4 pages of great info). Thanks. Last time I went thru this process I believe these were the varieties I thought I had. Thus the "water-hemp' herbicide treatment plan. NDSU recommends using Rye to suppress these weeds and other non-row-crop practices. I'm pretty sure that is the direction I am going now. That paper listed by Stu is EXCELLENT information! I wish I could determine where I got this bad seed? Maybe those bastards at Bjerga's bagged some local bad Rye seed and sold it as good stuff? All I can figure. Maybe that is why they dont sell it anymore??? I'm suspicious. EDIT: Tho when you think about it....RYE is the least likely place to get pigweed.
Thanks for the help again. Now that I know the future of my wife's health.....I think I will go ahead and get started on a 3 point drill for next year. That way I can try to suppress the areas via rye and in August or so get my fall crops panted very quickly after either into or after flail mowing my last year planted rye crop. This way I can eliminate tillage and still get some germination when planting in the sandy soil I have. In any event......I am gonna invest in a drill and send my two row planter down the road. No more row crops for me.....too much space to allow weeds to flourish. ^That's my story and I am sticking too it. ^^Does this sound logical give what I have to deal with? In other more important news......MY WIFE IS RESPONDING TO THE R&R like a CHAMPION. She has about a two-month recovery period.....but is doing very well and getting stronger every day!
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Post by MoBuckChaser on Aug 3, 2021 19:32:28 GMT -6
Some areas in the United States no herbicide will killer Palmer. One of the reasons we don’t buy bob food plot seed grown in southern states. I've been getting excellent kills with that Interline you sold me MO. Problem is you gotta stay on top of it and get it as soon as it gets going.....as in days that chit is big with seeds. I am not 100% sure with the leaves in the description Stu gave vs what I got going on. As soon as I can get back to my land in a few days......I will use that guide Stu provided to compare my plants and the data shown. I printed the PDF version (4 pages of great info). Thanks. Last time I went thru this process I believe these were the varieties I thought I had. Thus the "water-hemp' herbicide treatment plan. NDSU recommends using Rye to suppress these weeds and other non-row-crop practices. I'm pretty sure that is the direction I am going now. That paper listed by Stu is EXCELLENT information! I wish I could determine where I got this bad seed? Maybe those bastards at Bjerga's bagged some local bad Rye seed and sold it as good stuff? All I can figure. Maybe that is why they dont sell it anymore??? I'm suspicious. Thanks for the help again. Now that I know the future of my wife's health.....I think I will go ahead and get started on a 3 point drill for next year. That way I can try to suppress the areas via rye and in August or so get my fall crops panted very quickly after either into or after flail mowing my last year planted rye crop. This way I can eliminate tillage and still get some germination when planting in the sandy soil I have. In any event......I am gonna invest in a drill and send my two row planter down the road. No more row crops for me.....too much space to allow weeds to flourish. ^That's my story and I am sticking too it. ^^Does this sound logical give what I have to deal with? Solid seeding or in 30” rows, you ain’t stopping the new super weeds. Different modes of action herbicides is our only hope right now.
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Pigweed
Aug 3, 2021 19:40:06 GMT -6
Post by Foggy on Aug 3, 2021 19:40:06 GMT -6
Some areas in the United States no herbicide will killer Palmer. One of the reasons we don’t buy bob food plot seed grown in southern states. I cannot think of any seed I have purchased that was not grown in the North Central USA. I am suspicious of some bagged Rye seeds I bought at Bjerga's Feed store....... whom is not selling Cereal Rye anymore??? Hmmmmm. The most distant seed source I have was some clover variety from Welter Seed and Honey. Most seed varieties are from Deer Creek, or MO, or LaCrosse, or Albert Lea. And some good brand soy beans and corn. Leads me back to that Rye.
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Post by MoBuckChaser on Aug 3, 2021 19:51:09 GMT -6
Even with the best seed cleaning tables made on earth, no one can guarantee clean seed. With Palmer in the dakotas, Iowa and mn now, we will all have it eventually. It’s what you do with weed control and the many different modes of action sprays out there that will keep good clean plots or ones you will be disking down before that weed reaches the seed bearing stage. The time of being cheap when it comes to weed control is over. It’s that simple. I deal with the calls on a daily basis from farmers that don’t get it yet and can’t see there crop now in august because the pigweed is so thick. Wait until Palmer comes in fir them. They will change or be forced to quit farming. It’s that simple.
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Pigweed
Aug 3, 2021 20:12:51 GMT -6
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Post by Catscratch on Aug 3, 2021 20:12:51 GMT -6
There isn't a bean field in KS that isn't choked with Palmer unless they're spraying Liberty or something similar. It's really quite amazing how quickly it showed up and took over. It ended up in my yard and plots. Worried me quite a bit but got it under control without herbicides easy enough... but plots aren't income producers and can be treated differently.
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Pigweed
Aug 3, 2021 20:52:36 GMT -6
Post by benmnwi on Aug 3, 2021 20:52:36 GMT -6
it appears that I have waterhemp based on my questionable weed ID skills. I guess the name doesn't matter since whatever this is can survive roundup.
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Post by Foggy on Aug 4, 2021 5:40:36 GMT -6
^ Trophy quality plant there Ben. Maybe you should take that one to the County Fair.
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Post by smsmith on Aug 4, 2021 6:56:49 GMT -6
it appears that I have waterhemp based on my questionable weed ID skills. I guess the name doesn't matter since whatever this is can survive roundup. Leaves sure do look like waterhemp to me. Whatever you do, don't let that shit set seeds. Pull it out, bag it up, and remove it from the site.
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Post by Foggy on Aug 4, 2021 7:02:47 GMT -6
it appears that I have waterhemp based on my questionable weed ID skills. I guess the name doesn't matter since whatever this is can survive roundup. Leaves sure do look like waterhemp to me. Whatever you do, don't let that shit set seeds. Pull it out, bag it up, and remove it from the site. Ship it up to SD / ND / STD?....he can turn it into cat litter or dam up a piece of wetland with it.
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Post by benmnwi on Aug 4, 2021 11:15:14 GMT -6
We have been hand pulling a lot of that stuff and feeding it to the pigs. I'm not sure this is a battle I can win, but I'm certainly trying. Regular pigweed didn't seem to be much of a problem for me, but this stuff is different.
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Pigweed
Aug 4, 2021 14:17:52 GMT -6
Post by Foggy on Aug 4, 2021 14:17:52 GMT -6
I started a new thread under equipment on Foggy going no till. Maybe I can work through the pigweed issues by good chems and no till ? I"m gonna try.....next year.
(For Sale: JD 71 3 point, two row planter with corn, bean, sugar beet, and ? plates. works good / looks good. Ready to plant. Call: BR-549 )
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Post by MoBuckChaser on Aug 4, 2021 19:47:49 GMT -6
I started a new thread under equipment on Foggy going no till. Maybe I can work through the pigweed issues by good chems and no till ? I"m gonna try.....next year. (For Sale: JD 71 3 point, two row planter with corn, bean, sugar beet, and ? plates. works good / looks good. Ready to plant. Call: BR-549 ) I have been no till at our farm for 9 years now. I can assure you that you will have more weed problems then before. You need a good pre and post program.
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