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Pigweed
Aug 4, 2021 21:18:56 GMT -6
Post by Foggy on Aug 4, 2021 21:18:56 GMT -6
I started a new thread under equipment on Foggy going no till. Maybe I can work through the pigweed issues by good chems and no till ? I"m gonna try.....next year. (For Sale: JD 71 3 point, two row planter with corn, bean, sugar beet, and ? plates. works good / looks good. Ready to plant. Call: BR-549 ) I have been no till at our farm for 9 years now. I can assure you that you will have more weed problems then before. You need a good pre and post program. Aint you about breath of stale air! What is a guy gonna do? I still will do no till.....and I see some benefits in this.
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Post by MoBuckChaser on Aug 5, 2021 3:34:55 GMT -6
I have been no till at our farm for 9 years now. I can assure you that you will have more weed problems then before. You need a good pre and post program. Aint you about breath of stale air! What is a guy gonna do? I still will do no till.....and I see some benefits in this. Just speaking the truth on weeds and no till. What we see now after 9 years is a lot of white cockle, alsike clover, pig weeds of all types, giant rag weed, lamsquarter, mares tail and velvet leaf. Which most are very tough to kill. Requires a spring chemical burn down/ pre mix and a good post second pass later. Both have to be done when it’s time to spray, not when you have time to spray. Just the way it is.
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Post by sd51555 on Aug 5, 2021 6:27:05 GMT -6
Aint you about breath of stale air! What is a guy gonna do? I still will do no till.....and I see some benefits in this. Just speaking the truth on weeds and no till. What we see now after 9 years is a lot of white cockle, alsike clover, pig weeds of all types, giant rag weed, lamsquarter, mares tail and velvet leaf. Which most are very tough to kill. Requires a spring chemical burn down/ pre mix and a good post second pass later. Both have to be done when it’s time to spray, not when you have time to spray. Just the way it is. Are you talking in beans and corn, or in mixed food plots too?
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Post by Foggy on Aug 5, 2021 6:30:16 GMT -6
Aint you about breath of stale air! What is a guy gonna do? I still will do no till.....and I see some benefits in this. Just speaking the truth on weeds and no till. What we see now after 9 years is a lot of white cockle, alsike clover, pig weeds of all types, giant rag weed, lamsquarter, mares tail and velvet leaf. Which most are very tough to kill. Requires a spring chemical burn down/ pre mix and a good post second pass later. Both have to be done when it’s time to spray, not when you have time to spray. Just the way it is. OK....thanks MO. I think we need to have a Deer Habitat "roundtable" at a meet-up near Rice MN sometime. You could be the Deer Habitat forum hero and we would all buy some chemical from the back of your truck after the meet-up. . I wish I had a better understanding of this stuff.....but I suppose everyone is in the same boat. Lots of new terms for me.
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Pigweed
Aug 5, 2021 6:48:02 GMT -6
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Post by Sandbur on Aug 5, 2021 6:48:02 GMT -6
Just speaking the truth on weeds and no till. What we see now after 9 years is a lot of white cockle, alsike clover, pig weeds of all types, giant rag weed, lamsquarter, mares tail and velvet leaf. Which most are very tough to kill. Requires a spring chemical burn down/ pre mix and a good post second pass later. Both have to be done when it’s time to spray, not when you have time to spray. Just the way it is. OK....thanks MO. I think we need to have a Deer Habitat "roundtable" at a meet-up near Rice MN sometime. You could be the Deer Habitat forum hero and we would all buy some chemical from the back of your truck after the meet-up. . I wish I had a better understanding of this stuff.....but I suppose everyone is in the same boat. Lots of new terms for me. Good location. Anybody bringing moonshine for sale from the truck?
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Post by Foggy on Aug 5, 2021 7:42:01 GMT -6
OK....thanks MO. I think we need to have a Deer Habitat "roundtable" at a meet-up near Rice MN sometime. You could be the Deer Habitat forum hero and we would all buy some chemical from the back of your truck after the meet-up. . I wish I had a better understanding of this stuff.....but I suppose everyone is in the same boat. Lots of new terms for me. Good location. Anybody bringing moonshine for sale from the truck? I am serious about a Forum meetup and good discussion of plotting chemicals for some of these "new" weed issues. There could be a beer judging contest too. . Maybe the price of admission would be a 12 pack of some favorite beer?
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Pigweed
Aug 5, 2021 10:12:13 GMT -6
Post by MoBuckChaser on Aug 5, 2021 10:12:13 GMT -6
No meeting for me. Most food plot guys are too cheap to do what's correct. They always say its just a food plot, not realizing the weeds will be twice as bad next year when they don't get them under control this year. Plus they rarely do things in a timely fashion as is required if you want good weed control. I will help you here some, but count me out.
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Post by smsmith on Aug 5, 2021 10:23:38 GMT -6
The "easiest" way I've found to deal with invasive weeds is to stop growing annual plots. No bare soil or soil disturbance = much less weeds
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Pigweed
Aug 5, 2021 10:57:43 GMT -6
Post by benmnwi on Aug 5, 2021 10:57:43 GMT -6
Do farmers with alfalfa/corn rotations have fewer problems with pigweed and other problem weeds? I'm wondering if the 3+ year alfalfa cycle is long enough to kill off the weed seeds in the soil there, so they are less of an issue when that ground is back to an annual crop.
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Post by MoBuckChaser on Aug 5, 2021 11:32:35 GMT -6
Do farmers with alfalfa/corn rotations have fewer problems with pigweed and other problem weeds? I'm wondering if the 3+ year alfalfa cycle is long enough to kill off the weed seeds in the soil there, so they are less of an issue when that ground is back to an annual crop. Our best weed rotation preventer has been hay, corn, beans, wheat in that order
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Pigweed
Aug 5, 2021 12:30:42 GMT -6
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Post by Sandbur on Aug 5, 2021 12:30:42 GMT -6
Do farmers with alfalfa/corn rotations have fewer problems with pigweed and other problem weeds? I'm wondering if the 3+ year alfalfa cycle is long enough to kill off the weed seeds in the soil there, so they are less of an issue when that ground is back to an annual crop. Our best weed rotation preventer has been hay, corn, beans, wheat in that order Do you feel wheat is better than rye for weed suppression? Or just that your soil favors wheat and probably a better cash flow with wheat?
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Post by MoBuckChaser on Aug 5, 2021 13:05:09 GMT -6
Our best weed rotation preventer has been hay, corn, beans, wheat in that order Do you feel wheat is better than rye for weed suppression? Or just that your soil favors wheat and probably a better cash flow with wheat? My wallet favors wheat. Rye is a loser when it comes to farming.
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Pigweed
Aug 5, 2021 13:46:03 GMT -6
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Post by Sandbur on Aug 5, 2021 13:46:03 GMT -6
Do you feel wheat is better than rye for weed suppression? Or just that your soil favors wheat and probably a better cash flow with wheat? My wallet favors wheat. Rye is a loser when it comes to farming. Nobody farms rye around here. Just a cover crop and odd corners missed by irrigators are planted. Well maybe a few exceptions.
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Pigweed
Aug 5, 2021 13:51:44 GMT -6
Post by Foggy on Aug 5, 2021 13:51:44 GMT -6
The "easiest" way I've found to deal with invasive weeds is to stop growing annual plots. No bare soil or soil disturbance = much less weeds Thus my quest for a NT Drill.
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Pigweed
Aug 5, 2021 13:56:23 GMT -6
Post by smsmith on Aug 5, 2021 13:56:23 GMT -6
The "easiest" way I've found to deal with invasive weeds is to stop growing annual plots. No bare soil or soil disturbance = much less weeds Thus my quest for a NT Drill. Unless you're drilling into an established cover crop, you still end up with bare soil at some point. The farmers going with NT drills around here are usually drilling corn into last year's soybean field, or into a red clover or alfalfa field that had been terminated the previous fall.
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