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Post by smsmith on Sept 8, 2019 7:03:49 GMT -6
How many cord on one of those semis? I believe around here they’ve been $1200-1600 because the guy my niece used to rent from used to buy one load a year and cut. It varied from year to year with diesel prices and market glut. I see $250-300 a cord around here but, once December/January hits it goes to $400. 10-15 would be my guess. I wonder if the low price by me is more so a means to keep guys working between jobs, and a factor of short hauls from wherever it was cut. I'd guess plain old economics plays a role too. Not too many folks with any extra money laying around in northern MN. You can't get blood out of a turnip
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Post by MoBuckChaser on Sept 8, 2019 7:24:07 GMT -6
With propane at .80/gal, most won't cut wood unless you have a wood boiler for your heat/water heater. For sure no reason to pay $150 a cord for it either if you don't have a wood boiler.
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Post by sd51555 on Sept 8, 2019 7:45:02 GMT -6
With propane at .80/gal, most won't cut wood unless you have a wood boiler for your heat/water heater. For sure no reason to pay $150 a cord for it either if you don't have a wood boiler. That's my neighbor. He's got the boiler outside. When I was selling propane, I'd tell the wood guys to save their wood for now and burn LP while it was practically free.
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Post by kabic on Sept 8, 2019 8:40:44 GMT -6
My Father in Law has the huge ass outside wood stove. He heats his house and a large detached garage. The house is so warm in the winter it seems like there is always a window open.
He hasn't used his propane furnace in so long i doubt it even works any more.
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Post by Foggy on Sept 8, 2019 10:58:44 GMT -6
My Father in Law has the huge ass outside wood stove. He heats his house and a large detached garage. The house is so warm in the winter it seems like there is always a window open. He hasn't used his propane furnace in so long i doubt it even works any more. ^ That is the only kind of wood burning furnace I would use these days. Continually burning wood inside your home is like smoking cigarettes IMO. Not healthy.
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Post by smsmith on Sept 8, 2019 16:35:16 GMT -6
My Father in Law has the huge ass outside wood stove. He heats his house and a large detached garage. The house is so warm in the winter it seems like there is always a window open. He hasn't used his propane furnace in so long i doubt it even works any more. ^ That is the only kind of wood burning furnace I would use these days. Continually burning wood inside your home is like smoking cigarettes IMO. Not healthy. Continually burning wood outside your home is about the same as second hand smoke. Probably why many communities have been banning boilers. I like the smell of a good clean wood fire, but that doesn't seem to be what folks are burning anymore.
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Post by nhmountains on Sept 8, 2019 16:48:24 GMT -6
I’ve got smoke detectors all trough my house and camp and they never go off from the wood stoves. They go off sometimes when I’m cooking though. The Lopi stoves we have are very effecient. At the end of the year when I clean my chimneys there’s very little creosote buildup from burning 4-5 cords. The key is to burn hot and dry wood. We split our chunks smaller than a lot of people but, it helps drying the wood.
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Post by smsmith on Sept 8, 2019 16:53:45 GMT -6
One of the selling points of outdoor boilers is that you can burn at least a good percentage of uncured/green wood. It never fails, when I see folks firing up their boilers there is one huge cloud of thick, nasty smoke. It's not like indoor wood stoves used to be...build up a good bed of coals and add seasoned/dried wood. Now, it's more like throw whatever is combustible in the boiler and top it off with some green wood.
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Post by Catscratch on Sept 8, 2019 18:19:58 GMT -6
Insurance guy wouldn't let us go with an outdoor stove, made us put in an indoor unit. Said too many people were letting weeds grow around them. The weeds catch fire and the winds blow the fire to the house.
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Post by nhmountains on Sept 8, 2019 18:22:48 GMT -6
One of the selling points of outdoor boilers is that you can burn at least a good percentage of uncured/green wood. It never fails, when I see folks firing up their boilers there is one huge cloud of thick, nasty smoke. It's not like indoor wood stoves used to be...build up a good bed of coals and add seasoned/dried wood. Now, it's more like throw whatever is combustible in the boiler and top it off with some green wood. Yeah I see the plumes of smoke from the boilers too. They definitely burn whatever they want. I wouldn’t want to be down wind of one. My brother’s buddy takes dead wood along our trails and drop off a couple truckloads of pine and firs to an old guy who has one. He burns pallets and whatever he can get his hand on.
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Post by smsmith on Sept 8, 2019 18:31:52 GMT -6
Insurance guy wouldn't let us go with an outdoor stove, made us put in an indoor unit. Said too many people were letting weeds grow around them. The weeds catch fire and the winds blow the fire to the house. Insurance carriers didn't even want to talk about prices when I brought up boilers or indoor woodstoves. By the time I factored in increased premiums it was pretty clear that burning wood would not be a money saver. Fine by me as I have/had no desire to cut/split/stack 5-8 cords a year. Especially as I get more and more grey in my beard.
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Post by nhmountains on Sept 8, 2019 18:45:23 GMT -6
Insurance guy wouldn't let us go with an outdoor stove, made us put in an indoor unit. Said too many people were letting weeds grow around them. The weeds catch fire and the winds blow the fire to the house. Insurance carriers didn't even want to talk about prices when I brought up boilers or indoor woodstoves. By the time I factored in increased premiums it was pretty clear that burning wood would not be a money saver. Fine by me as I have/had no desire to cut/split/stack 5-8 cords a year. Especially as I get more and more grey in my beard. I’m doing it to clear the land and release oaks I’m saving a little maybe but, if I wasn’t doing the wood I’d be even fatter than I am. Hopefully in 5-6 years we will be in a more efficient home and I can cut my wood cutting to about 25% of what it is now. We’ve left a lot of easy trees along the trails for future wood so it’ll be a lot easy and more efficient down the road.
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Post by Sandbur on Sept 8, 2019 18:53:26 GMT -6
Insurance guy wouldn't let us go with an outdoor stove, made us put in an indoor unit. Said too many people were letting weeds grow around them. The weeds catch fire and the winds blow the fire to the house. Insurance carriers didn't even want to talk about prices when I brought up boilers or indoor woodstoves. By the time I factored in increased premiums it was pretty clear that burning wood would not be a money saver. Fine by me as I have/had no desire to cut/split/stack 5-8 cords a year. Especially as I get more and more grey in my beard. Same things for me. We used to burn wood when we lived in an older trailer house and were building this house.
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Post by Catscratch on Sept 8, 2019 19:00:37 GMT -6
Insurance guy wouldn't let us go with an outdoor stove, made us put in an indoor unit. Said too many people were letting weeds grow around them. The weeds catch fire and the winds blow the fire to the house. Insurance carriers didn't even want to talk about prices when I brought up boilers or indoor woodstoves. By the time I factored in increased premiums it was pretty clear that burning wood would not be a money saver. Fine by me as I have/had no desire to cut/split/stack 5-8 cords a year. Especially as I get more and more grey in my beard. After talking with the insurance guy we went with an indoor unit at zero extra premiums and dumped the rest of the money into insulation. A small fire will heat the house for most of the day. The insulation is nice. The wife turns the heat completely off when she goes to work in the morning and when we get home it's still above 60, even on the coldest days.
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Post by smsmith on Sept 8, 2019 19:03:37 GMT -6
Insurance carriers didn't even want to talk about prices when I brought up boilers or indoor woodstoves. By the time I factored in increased premiums it was pretty clear that burning wood would not be a money saver. Fine by me as I have/had no desire to cut/split/stack 5-8 cords a year. Especially as I get more and more grey in my beard. After talking with the insurance guy we went with an indoor unit at zero extra premiums and dumped the rest of the money into insulation. A small fire will heat the house for most of the day. The insulation is nice. The wife turns the heat completely off when she goes to work in the morning and when we get home it's still above 60, even on the coldest days. That doesn't work when the daily high is below 0
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