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Post by biglakebass on Jan 23, 2020 23:06:25 GMT -6
If the DNR did another all season, it would not be a bargain, just like it was before. I am not buying they are going to create 1 license for all 3 seasons. What would they gain?
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Post by sd51555 on Jan 24, 2020 0:02:02 GMT -6
If the DNR did another all season, it would not be a bargain, just like it was before. I am not buying they are going to create 1 license for all 3 seasons. What would they gain? Now that you say that, If I remember right, It came down to the cost of about 2.5 licenses instead of 3 separate ones.
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Post by Sandbur on Jan 24, 2020 5:36:54 GMT -6
If the DNR did another all season, it would not be a bargain, just like it was before. I am not buying they are going to create 1 license for all 3 seasons. What would they gain? Now that you say that, If I remember right, It came down to the cost of about 2.5 licenses instead of 3 separate ones. Could you use bonus permits with that license?
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Post by sd51555 on Jan 24, 2020 6:50:08 GMT -6
Now that you say that, If I remember right, It came down to the cost of about 2.5 licenses instead of 3 separate ones. Could you use bonus permits with that license? I don't think there was such a thing yet. That was back when the licenses were paper issued out of a book.
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Post by smsmith on Jan 24, 2020 8:09:08 GMT -6
If the DNR did another all season, it would not be a bargain, just like it was before. I am not buying they are going to create 1 license for all 3 seasons. What would they gain?My thought exactly. Unless an all season license cost the same (or more) than all 3 licenses currently cost, I see no reason the MNDNR would have any interest.
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Post by sd51555 on Jan 24, 2020 8:20:33 GMT -6
If the DNR did another all season, it would not be a bargain, just like it was before. I am not buying they are going to create 1 license for all 3 seasons. What would they gain?My thought exactly. Unless an all season license cost the same (or more) than all 3 licenses currently cost, I see no reason the MNDNR would have any interest. Keeps guys in the field longer and at a lower price. I'm probably the best example. I'd like to hunt 1-2 weekends beyond rifle season, but they're cracked if they think I'm gonna pay an extra $185 to hunt my own land for 1 or 2 more days. But if I am paying $370 for two weapons now, I may be willing to pony up $400 for all 3. $555 for all three, no way in hell.
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Post by smsmith on Jan 24, 2020 8:35:23 GMT -6
My thought exactly. Unless an all season license cost the same (or more) than all 3 licenses currently cost, I see no reason the MNDNR would have any interest. Keeps guys in the field longer and at a lower price. I'm probably the best example. I'd like to hunt 1-2 weekends beyond rifle season, but they're cracked if they think I'm gonna pay an extra $185 to hunt my own land for 1 or 2 more days. But if I am paying $370 for two weapons now, I may be willing to pony up $400 for all 3. $555 for all three, no way in hell. No offense, but I don't think non-res hunters even register on the MNDNR's scale of "things to consider". So few non-res deer hunt here it is a negligible item
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Post by batman on Jan 24, 2020 8:50:49 GMT -6
Keeps guys in the field longer and at a lower price. I'm probably the best example. I'd like to hunt 1-2 weekends beyond rifle season, but they're cracked if they think I'm gonna pay an extra $185 to hunt my own land for 1 or 2 more days. But if I am paying $370 for two weapons now, I may be willing to pony up $400 for all 3. $555 for all three, no way in hell. No offense, but I don't think non-res hunters even register on the MNDNR's scale of "things to consider". So few non-res deer hunt here it is a negligible item MN is behind FL and HI for percentage of non res license sales.
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Post by MoBuckChaser on Jan 24, 2020 8:53:37 GMT -6
I hate these goal setting threads for mn. Everyone always gets fucked anyways. We can jump up and down, call everybody associated at and with the Dnr assholes and it does no good.
Edit: sorry, just had to vent.
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Post by smsmith on Jan 24, 2020 8:57:45 GMT -6
I hate these goal setting threads for mn. Everyone always gets fucked anyways. We can jump up and down, call everybody associated at and with the Dnr assholes and it does no good. Edit: sorry, just had to vent. Once you realize and accept the fact that whatever we do or think about deer hunting is irrelevant to the MNDNR, it gets less troublesome. We had our chance to become relevant a few years ago, but the deer groups couldn't come together. Once that moment in time passed with no progress, it was abundantly clear to me that belonging to any group or trying to impact MNDNR deer policy was a complete and total waste of time. I worry about what happens on my acreage, that's all I can impact directly.
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Post by MoBuckChaser on Jan 24, 2020 9:08:09 GMT -6
I hate these goal setting threads for mn. Everyone always gets fucked anyways. We can jump up and down, call everybody associated at and with the Dnr assholes and it does no good. Edit: sorry, just had to vent. Once you realize and accept the fact that whatever we do or think about deer hunting is irrelevant to the MNDNR, it gets less troublesome. We had our chance to become relevant a few years ago, but the deer groups couldn't come together. Once that moment in time passed with no progress, it was abundantly clear to me that belonging to any group or trying to impact MNDNR deer policy was a complete and total waste of time. I worry about what happens on my acreage, that's all I can impact directly. Yep, I ruined a good friendship with my buddy that was The MDHA chapter pres for south metro because they were great at taking all of our donation money but terrible at doing anything meaningful with it other than the forkhorns. The amount of cash a lot of us put into the MDHA over the years with little to no results has really chapped my ass.
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Post by smsmith on Jan 24, 2020 9:11:08 GMT -6
Once you realize and accept the fact that whatever we do or think about deer hunting is irrelevant to the MNDNR, it gets less troublesome. We had our chance to become relevant a few years ago, but the deer groups couldn't come together. Once that moment in time passed with no progress, it was abundantly clear to me that belonging to any group or trying to impact MNDNR deer policy was a complete and total waste of time. I worry about what happens on my acreage, that's all I can impact directly. Yep, I ruined a good friendship with my buddy that was The MDHA chapter pres for south metro because they were great at taking all of our donation money but terrible at doing anything meaningful with it other than the forkhorns. The amount of cash a lot of us put into the MDHA over the years with little to no results has really chapped my ass.
I can only imagine. MDHA does a fine job with the forkhorn camps, however I'd sure like to know what percentage of those kids continue to deer hunt and become MDHA members as adults. It would seem to me such a longitudinal study would make sense if the organization is interested in doing anything besides "feel good" activities.
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Post by biglakebass on Jan 24, 2020 9:25:41 GMT -6
Now that you say that, If I remember right, It came down to the cost of about 2.5 licenses instead of 3 separate ones. Could you use bonus permits with that license? 1 tag with the ability to hunt all 3 seasons if I remember correctly.
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Post by Bwoods11 on Jan 24, 2020 10:01:15 GMT -6
I had a guy stop in my office, and he is a pretty avid outdoorsman. The conversation he had with DNR offical was that they want more bucks dead due to the spread of CWD. What a total bummer, this is not going to get better.
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Post by batman on Jan 24, 2020 10:04:38 GMT -6
You guys can all roll over and play dead and take the shit they dole out. I won't stop. We have accomplished change. Without those actions a lot of deer herds that were and under Beaus control would be far worse than today, and his efforts would have been internally applauded and expanded.
Bowhunter surveys. Annual harvest goals. Continued goal setting processes. Buck harvest metric.
If my zone was under the knife this year you can bet your ass my posse would submit more surveys than the rest of the area combined. Those numbers would be hard to ignore.
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