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Post by Sandbur on May 9, 2020 8:52:26 GMT -6
I am not a fan of big scopes on rifles or flip up scope covers. It all depends on your style of hunting.
If you hunt where you look the deer over before shooting, you probably will have time to settle in to any rifle.
I often hunt in thick cover and prefer a short rifle that has a scope mounted close to the gun. I want a gun/ scope combo that I can throw to my shoulder and it all lines up perfectly like you are pointing your finger.
When shopping, I went in Gun stores and throw multiple guns to my shoulder with my eyes closed. Open your eyes and see if it all lines up. Try it 3 or 4 times With each Gun was and pick the model that works. Wear your hunting coat if necessary.
My two cents, but probably old hat to many of you.
My second biggest buck I shot while running through brush and woods with only one spot for a shot. Maybe a 25 yard shot.
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Post by Foggy on May 9, 2020 9:11:23 GMT -6
I am not a fan of big scopes on rifles or flip up scope covers. It all depends on your style of hunting. If you hunt where you look the deer over before shooting, you probably will have time to settle in to any rifle. I often hunt in thick cover and prefer a short rifle that has a scope mounted close to the gun. I want a gun/ scope combo that I can throw to my shoulder and it all lines up perfectly like you are pointing your finger. When shopping, I went in Gun stores and throw multiple guns to my shoulder with my eyes closed. Open your eyes and see if it all lines up. Try it 3 or 4 times With each Gun was and pick the model that works. Wear your hunting coat if necessary. My two cents, but probably old hat to many of you. My second biggest buck I shot while running through brush and woods with only one spot for a shot. Maybe a 25 yard shot. What size buckshot do you shoot Art? .
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Post by Sandbur on May 9, 2020 9:32:34 GMT -6
I am not a fan of big scopes on rifles or flip up scope covers. It all depends on your style of hunting. If you hunt where you look the deer over before shooting, you probably will have time to settle in to any rifle. I often hunt in thick cover and prefer a short rifle that has a scope mounted close to the gun. I want a gun/ scope combo that I can throw to my shoulder and it all lines up perfectly like you are pointing your finger. When shopping, I went in Gun stores and throw multiple guns to my shoulder with my eyes closed. Open your eyes and see if it all lines up. Try it 3 or 4 times With each Gun was and pick the model that works. Wear your hunting coat if necessary. My two cents, but probably old hat to many of you. My second biggest buck I shot while running through brush and woods with only one spot for a shot. Maybe a 25 yard shot. What size buckshot do you shoot Art? . I had an aunt who did that. I got to laugh. One year on opening day, my uncle had a deer so close he could only see hair in the scope and he missed. The next day, my Dad picked him up off of the stand at a set time and my uncle was carrying a deer rifle with scope in one hand and a double barrel in the other. You can bet he wasn’t hunting partridge!
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Post by mnaaron on May 9, 2020 9:59:02 GMT -6
Seems like In the areas I hunt you have just a few seconds to look the deer over before your shoot. I need better shooting lanes on a few of my stands. It has cost me deer. Quick mounting rifle is key
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Post by Sandbur on May 9, 2020 10:11:14 GMT -6
Seems like In the areas I hunt you have just a few seconds to look the deer over before your shoot. I need better shooting lanes on a few of my stands. It has cost me deer. Quick mounting rifle is key With so many guns, the barrel just does not line up with my eyes. I think head width, arm length, and other things determine a Gun that fits. When my cheek is tight to the stock, I want everything lined up straight down the barrel. After you pick the gun, you need a willing gunsmith to work with different heights of mounts. I am not an expert, but this is my way. Most Remingtons without cheek pieces fit me. In fact, many classic stocks. I have never shot an M 99 but have heard some brag about them. I remember old loggers with a peep sight on them and jump shooting deer in the woods.
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Post by Catscratch on May 9, 2020 13:16:23 GMT -6
Offset scope/open sights for quick and close shots...
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Post by kooch on May 9, 2020 15:03:53 GMT -6
That'd take some getting used to.
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Post by Freeborn on May 9, 2020 15:11:47 GMT -6
Offset scope/open sights for quick and close shots... What you see around here is see-through scope rings so your scope sits high on the gun and you can look under the scope to see your iron sites. The see-through rings have been around for 40+ years. I have seen the offset scope mounts but never used them. Most of the time I have seen them on older lever action guns when standard scope taps were not on the gun.
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Post by Foggy on May 9, 2020 15:35:54 GMT -6
Offset scope/open sights for quick and close shots... What you see around here is see-through scope rings so your scope sits high on the gun and you can look under the scope to see your iron sites. The see-through rings have been around for 40+ years. I have seen the offset scope mounts but never used them. Most of the time I have seen them on older lever action guns when standard scope taps were not on the gun. I fail to see how this could be very accurate. At some range you have to cross the bullets path and start going into right field. Not sure I like that set up. In the past they had some tip-off scope mounts that were a little suspect too. I do have a set of low, see thru mounts on my savage. More of a back-up thing than useful in a hurry.
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Post by Catscratch on May 9, 2020 15:40:31 GMT -6
Nailed it! Old lever gun that was my grandfather's deer rifle.
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Post by Catscratch on May 9, 2020 15:47:03 GMT -6
What you see around here is see-through scope rings so your scope sits high on the gun and you can look under the scope to see your iron sites. The see-through rings have been around for 40+ years. I have seen the offset scope mounts but never used them. Most of the time I have seen them on older lever action guns when standard scope taps were not on the gun. I fail to see how this could be very accurate. At some range you have to cross the bullets path and start going into right field. Not sure I like that set up. In the past they had some tip-off scope mounts that were a little suspect too. I do have a set of low, see thru mounts on my savage. More of a back-up thing than useful in a hurry. Grandpa had it sighted in an inch or 2 to the right, manually adjusted point of aim to compensate for it but the barrel and the line of sight with the scope were parallel to each other. No cross over downrange. It was an old man's 30-30 who never shot more than 100yds at a deer. It served his purpose well. One deer he shot was in the ditch across from the ditch he was in... not more than than10yds away and at a full run . One shot using the open sites and the deer piled up. He was a welder/fabricator by trade. Understood more engineering than most engineers I've known.
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Post by Freeborn on May 9, 2020 16:06:04 GMT -6
I fail to see how this could be very accurate. At some range you have to cross the bullets path and start going into right field. Not sure I like that set up. In the past they had some tip-off scope mounts that were a little suspect too. I do have a set of low, see thru mounts on my savage. More of a back-up thing than useful in a hurry. Grandpa had it sighted in an inch or 2 to the right, manually adjusted point of aim to compensate for it but the barrel and the line of sight with the scope were parallel to each other. No cross over downrange. It was an old man's 30-30 who never shot more than 100yds at a deer. It served his purpose well. One deer he shot was in the ditch across from the ditch he was in... not more than than10yds away and at a full run . One shot using the open sites and the deer piled up. He was a welder/fabricator by trade. Understood more engineering than most engineers I've known. Looks great. Nice you have Gandpa's rifle. Sometimes we forget that our forefathers were killing deer long before we were here. In fact, in some way, it's probably why we are here.
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Post by Foggy on May 9, 2020 16:24:43 GMT -6
Is that a Marlin? What caliber?
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Post by Catscratch on May 9, 2020 16:52:02 GMT -6
Is that a Marlin? What caliber? It's a Winchester Model 94 in 30-30. Not sure how old it is or how long he had it. As long as I can remember it was his deer gun. He seldom shot a deer. He would sit there and watch them as he smoked his Swisher Sweets or Cherry tobacco pipe... content to know he could have shot one. When everyone got together after each hunt to clean/butcher/eat/drink/etc he would sit back and grin at them, and talk trash about the work they made for themselves by shooting a little buck. I have one of his duck calls that still smells like cherry tobacco. Lots of good memories.
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Post by mnaaron on May 9, 2020 16:59:37 GMT -6
First gun I ever borrowed to deer hunt was a marlin 336 so those lever action 30-30s have a special place in my heart.
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