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Post by sd51555 on May 20, 2020 17:16:09 GMT -6
Last time I used it, I pulled it and the recoil cord broke. It ran all day just fine. Probably saw 3 tanks of fuel this spring already. Always was a one pull start after it was warmed up, 3 if it was cold. Have almost exclusively ran the $32/gal premixed fuel. It's 7 years old and I bet it hasn't seen 7 gallons of fuel.
Took it to the shop to have the recoil fixed and get a tune up. They fix the recoil and then tell me they can't get it started and it has no compression. So I asked some questions.
Are you sure it's my saw? "yep we're sure."
It ran before it came in, what could have happened? "We don't know. If it don't run, we can't afford to look at it."
So should I just pitch it in the garbage and buy a new one? "Uh..."
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Did something blow up in the saw that caused it to pull hard and snap the cord?
Did they screw something up messing with the recoil?
Didn't put the spark plug all the way back in?
I don't have any tools in SF, so I really can't screw with it myself. I pulled and pulled after I got it, and there's nothing there all of a sudden. Very not pleased with the dipshits that worked on this. If they could have offered an explantion, I'd have been happy to junk it and buy a new one on the spot. But them fuckers wouldn't look me in the eye when we were talking.
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Post by wiscwhip on May 20, 2020 17:42:02 GMT -6
If they put in a new plug that was too long, it could very well have bashed off the top of the piston. If that happened, it could cause all kinds of issues. I've seen this happen on 2 stroke snowmobile engines back in my racing days.
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Post by batman on May 20, 2020 17:45:38 GMT -6
You got 7 years out of it. Bring it to a shop in Boy River where knowing guys work for jack shit and pray. And buy a new saw.
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Post by Catscratch on May 20, 2020 18:52:02 GMT -6
I'm incline to say that something gave out and the broken pull was just a symptom of you pulling hard on a hard to turn or locked engine.
I would pull her plug and inspect. Look for a bent side electrode. Try to spin the engine with the plug out, see if it's vapor locked or something.
After that I would start pulling covers off checking for binding and if the brake is locked.
After that I'm pulling the carb and looking at the piston with a flashlight.
Good luck. Make sure to carefully set all parts in a bucket in order of removal so that when you trip over the bucket and kick it across the floor you'll have everything figured out.
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Post by sd51555 on May 20, 2020 19:58:23 GMT -6
You got 7 years out of it. Bring it to a shop in Boy River where knowing guys work for jack shit and pray. And buy a new saw. I stopped at the Stihl dealer after I picked up my saw from the first place. I was ready to walk out with an MS 170, but the guy talked me out of it. Despite being lighter and less power (which I could have lived with), the dude told me Stihl put cheaper parts into it to hit that throw-away price point. Then I looked at the 194T and liked it, but if I was only going to have one saw coming out of this, I didn't want it to be the little one. www.stihlusa.com/products/chain-saws/in-tree-saws/ms194t/ |
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Post by nhmountains on May 20, 2020 20:28:46 GMT -6
That MS194T is an arborist saw. It’s similar to my Echo CS2511T. If you were pruning large limbs or limbing dropped trees then that would be a good saw but, not for felling larger trees.
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Post by smallchunk on May 20, 2020 20:43:00 GMT -6
I took one apart, put a whole new gas tank/base on it and put it all back together and it somehow worked. If I could do that, you can too SD!
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Post by sd51555 on May 20, 2020 21:02:22 GMT -6
I took one apart, put a whole new gas tank/base on it and put it all back together and it somehow worked. If I could do that, you can too SD! I left mine at the Stihl dealer. It's $40 to have them diagnose it, credited back if they fix something. With the first fail-fix, that puts me about 20% of the way to a new saw already. It'll be a couple weeks-plus before they can get to it. I'm having anxiety not having my chainsaw. There's something about being able to grab it and raise hell at a moment's notice. |
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Post by smsmith on May 21, 2020 9:21:19 GMT -6
Go buy a MS180c. I have two. They've both had shitloads of hours put on them and both still run great (I did have a new carb installed on one of them I guess). They aren't designed for big trees though. For small stuff and hinge cutting they are awesome
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Post by sd51555 on May 21, 2020 10:09:56 GMT -6
Go buy a MS180c. I have two. They've both had shitloads of hours put on them and both still run great (I did have a new carb installed on one of them I guess). They aren't designed for big trees though. For small stuff and hinge cutting they are awesome Does that have the spring assist when you pull to start it? |
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Post by smsmith on May 21, 2020 10:15:19 GMT -6
Go buy a MS180c. I have two. They've both had shitloads of hours put on them and both still run great (I did have a new carb installed on one of them I guess). They aren't designed for big trees though. For small stuff and hinge cutting they are awesome Does that have the spring assist when you pull to start it? I don't even know what spring assist is edit...just looked it up. My two saws don't have easy start |
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Post by badgerfowl on May 21, 2020 11:15:51 GMT -6
My 190 or whatever the hell it is has the easy start. Starts pretty easy.
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Post by chummer16 on May 22, 2020 9:57:49 GMT -6
I hav the 170 and it is junk. I bought it for small stuff and hinge cutting. It has a hard time cutting 4” trees. I only use it when my other saw is stuck or out of gas.
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Post by Catscratch on May 22, 2020 12:44:10 GMT -6
I went with the 211 this last fall. I don't think I would want to go any smaller than that! I would have bought a bigger one than that... but I'm a cheap ass.  |
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Post by chummer16 on May 22, 2020 12:55:14 GMT -6
I have the 251 and love it, probably had it for 6-7 years now. I traded in a bunch of junk landscaping equipment when I sold my business for store credit and got the 170 so I guess I shouldn’t complain too much.
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