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Post by Foggy on Nov 9, 2020 20:40:13 GMT -6
My clover in MN is still looking good......and I have lots of pics of deer feeding in the clover plots at night. Amazing for Nov 9th. Trying to decide if I should sit over the clover or corn tonight. I sat on my field plot tonight. BFOs, clover, brassica, WR, etc. They keep it nice and trimmed. Had over 10 in it tonight. Just not one to shoot. I wish I had followed my instincts and sat on the clover. Saw zip on the corn.
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Post by badgerfowl on Nov 9, 2020 20:47:47 GMT -6
I sat on my field plot tonight. BFOs, clover, brassica, WR, etc. They keep it nice and trimmed. Had over 10 in it tonight. Just not one to shoot. I wish I had followed my instincts and sat on the clover. Saw zip on the corn. You guys still warm up there or has it cooled down? After a week of 70+ it’s supposed to rain a bunch tomorrow. Then Wednesday thru Sunday is my final stretch. At least with the bow.
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Post by Foggy on Nov 9, 2020 21:27:58 GMT -6
I wish I had followed my instincts and sat on the clover. Saw zip on the corn. You guys still warm up there or has it cooled down? After a week of 70+ it’s supposed to rain a bunch tomorrow. Then Wednesday thru Sunday is my final stretch. At least with the bow. Big freeze tonight. Defineate change in the weather. I am gonna try the clover in the morning......but this is the last chance for it to provide food for the deer. Gonna go south fast now. I think we get to about 28 degrees tonight.....and not much higher for a time to come. This is the last green till May.....IMO.
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Post by smsmith on Nov 10, 2020 13:18:13 GMT -6
Just got in from a walk. I can see one of my clover plots from a section of road that I walk. There were two deer eating in there when I walked to the north and they were still there when I walked back to the south. My guess is that I could hunt the same spot I shot the buck on Sunday and see deer eating clover in both plots visible from there.
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Post by kooch on Nov 10, 2020 16:22:28 GMT -6
Does are still in and around what’s left of my clover. The Frosty Berseem went first. Balansa is sparse but it’s meant to come on strong in Spring. I took a look at the north end. Alsike and trefoil were still green today and looks like it’s getting attention. No shooter bucks. Plenty of the other kind, mostly yearlings that lost their mother. Occasional buck picture at night. I’m pleasantly surprised by the clover. Back to the brassica triad next year though. Lots of this everywhere I sit.
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Post by smsmith on Nov 17, 2020 10:15:11 GMT -6
Came back from grocery shopping a bit ago. There were 4 antlerless eating clover on a south facing slope in one of my orchards. I will continue to keep the vast majority of my plot acreage in a clover mix.
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Post by batman on Nov 17, 2020 10:45:15 GMT -6
I will continue to keep the vast majority of my plot acreage in a clover mix. Have you tried frost seeding brassica into the clover?
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Post by sd51555 on Nov 17, 2020 10:49:58 GMT -6
Came back from grocery shopping a bit ago. There were 4 antlerless eating clover on a south facing slope in one of my orchards. I will continue to keep the vast majority of my plot acreage in a clover mix.Absolutely! There's a hell of a weekend shaping up here. Mild south winds, cool, and no snow on the ground (at least that I'm aware of). Should be lots of clover left and the feeding pattern should be intensifying. Hopefully that third weekend luck will kick in and bring the boys around again. Or a fat 2.5 YO doe, that would do as well.
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Post by smsmith on Nov 17, 2020 10:50:01 GMT -6
I will continue to keep the vast majority of my plot acreage in a clover mix. Have you tried frost seeding brassica into the clover? I haven't, but I've been thinking about trying it. I did try overseeding, then mowing before rain. That didn't work, even with really heavy rain. Have you frostseeded into a good stand of clover? I know Bartylla has talked about that in the past
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Post by sd51555 on Nov 17, 2020 10:52:16 GMT -6
Clover, flax, barley, oats, chicory. Them's the foundation of my plan. The rest is just fartin' around. The fertilizer (gypsum) and chemical bill hit $64 this year. I thought that was getting a little outrageous.
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Post by batman on Nov 17, 2020 10:54:47 GMT -6
Have you tried frost seeding brassica into the clover? I haven't, but I've been thinking about trying it. I did try overseeding, then mowing before rain. That didn't work, even with really heavy rain. Have you frostseeded into a good stand of clover? I know Bartylla has talked about that in the past Bartylla has had decent luck but I have not tried it. I did some forage rape on bare dirt that grew and was eaten but have not tried it in clover.
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Post by smsmith on Nov 17, 2020 10:57:57 GMT -6
I haven't, but I've been thinking about trying it. I did try overseeding, then mowing before rain. That didn't work, even with really heavy rain. Have you frostseeded into a good stand of clover? I know Bartylla has talked about that in the past Bartylla has had decent luck but I have not tried it. I did some forage rape on bare dirt that grew and was eaten but have not tried it in clover. If it would work, it might be a great way to use up accumulated N. I will likely try it on at least one plot next spring
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Post by batman on Nov 17, 2020 11:12:55 GMT -6
Any idea which brassicas would be best candidate for frost seeding?
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Post by smsmith on Nov 17, 2020 11:17:45 GMT -6
Any idea which brassicas would be best candidate for frost seeding? Nope. I'll have to spend some time reading up on them. I'd think you would want something that takes off and grows quickly in order to get ahead of the clover. I've dug around the interwebs before trying to find something and there wasn't a lot out there.
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Post by benmnwi on Nov 17, 2020 12:11:29 GMT -6
I think dwarf essex rape would be a good frost seeding brassica option. I've never done it intentionally, but last year I did have a couple sections with DER go to seed. I planted those areas to clover this spring and I had some volunteer DER growing there. The competition from the clover kind of stunted the DER, but it definitely grew and was eaten by deer. At $2/lb throwing some DER seed around is a pretty low risk experiment.
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