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Post by MoBuckChaser on Sept 27, 2021 6:41:03 GMT -6
Just found out my DIL has not been allowing my wife to see her granddaughter. Said unless my wife gets vaxed she can’t see her anymore. Didn’t know I had such a stupid DIL. It’s making the decision to move a lot easier now. We had the same problem. DIL said it was for our protection and they didn't want us to get anything from them cause they were vax'ed. We told her BS were not getting vax'ed and if she going to use the kids as pawns that's her problem not ours. We have other grand kid to see. She gave in after a while, but she still after us to get vax'ed every time she calls. We just don't answer the phone when she calls. They can’t hurt me, but I know it bothers my wife. And they are having another kid in a few months. It will get more interesting. |
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Post by Sandbur on Sept 27, 2021 6:50:21 GMT -6
People need to accept this vaccine as an individual choice and both sides need to stop finger pointing. Whatever your choice, you need to accept the consequences.
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Post by Sandbur on Sept 27, 2021 6:52:47 GMT -6
People need to accept this vaccine as an individual choice and both sides need to stop finger pointing. Whatever your choice, you need to accept the consequences. The media and the Leaders kept fueling this division. Just remember that what the media says and shows is probably not accurate.  |
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Post by MoBuckChaser on Sept 27, 2021 6:57:19 GMT -6
People need to accept this vaccine as an individual choice and both sides need to stop finger pointing. Whatever your choice, you need to accept the consequences. Yep! But won’t happen. I have golfed with 2 guys out here they both have started Afib problems within a week of getting the first shot. Both were healthy before hand never going to the doctor. Their choice to take that risk of a bad fake vaccine, my choice is taking my chance/risk of not getting the fake vaccine. So far I’m winning. |
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Post by smsmith on Sept 27, 2021 8:06:13 GMT -6
People need to accept this vaccine as an individual choice and both sides need to stop finger pointing. Whatever your choice, you need to accept the consequences. Yep. It really pisses me off that this medical issue has been turned into a political mess. I am getting a crown today. I didn't discuss the merits of doing so with everybody on this forum or anywhere else. Getting the vaccine should be the same...a medical issue discussed with your health care provider and yourself. |
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Post by Catscratch on Sept 27, 2021 8:34:36 GMT -6
People need to accept this vaccine as an individual choice and both sides need to stop finger pointing. Whatever your choice, you need to accept the consequences. Yep. It really pisses me off that this medical issue has been turned into a political mess. I am getting a crown today. I didn't discuss the merits of doing so with everybody on this forum or anywhere else. Getting the vaccine should be the same...a medical issue discussed with your health care provider and yourself. Bingo, it's nobody's business. What really pisses me off is when someone ends up in the hospital due to covid and the first thing someone asks is if they were vaccinated. What does it matter? They are sick and hurting, why gloat that they if they weren't vaccinated? There are no guarantees in this life. |
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Post by nhmountains on Sept 27, 2021 9:00:09 GMT -6
People need to accept this vaccine as an individual choice and both sides need to stop finger pointing. Whatever your choice, you need to accept the consequences. Yep. It really pisses me off that this medical issue has been turned into a political mess. I am getting a crown today. I didn't discuss the merits of doing so with everybody on this forum or anywhere else. Getting the vaccine should be the same...a medical issue discussed with your health care provider and yourself. I was a few days ahead of you on the crown Stu. |
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Post by Freeborn on Sept 27, 2021 9:15:17 GMT -6
Yep. It really pisses me off that this medical issue has been turned into a political mess. I am getting a crown today. I didn't discuss the merits of doing so with everybody on this forum or anywhere else. Getting the vaccine should be the same...a medical issue discussed with your health care provider and yourself. Bingo, it's nobody's business. What really pisses me off is when someone ends up in the hospital due to covid and the first thing someone asks is if they were vaccinated. What does it matter? They are sick and hurting, why gloat that they if they weren't vaccinated? There are no guarantees in this life. The reason it has become a public debate is that COVID is consuming much of the capacities at hospitals and for those at Risk people putting them in danger. Agree, many people have no issue with COVID but it appears enough do that our hospitals are full of COVID patients. My guess is this is not an issue for most people as they are not needing hospitalization but if you did it would be a big problem. If COVID was risking my loved-ones health I would have a problem with all the COVIID patients taking the hospital resources. Unfortunately this is not a one size fits all problem, not sure what the answer is. |
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Post by smsmith on Sept 27, 2021 9:30:02 GMT -6
Bingo, it's nobody's business. What really pisses me off is when someone ends up in the hospital due to covid and the first thing someone asks is if they were vaccinated. What does it matter? They are sick and hurting, why gloat that they if they weren't vaccinated? There are no guarantees in this life. The reason it has become a public debate is that COVID is consuming much of the capacities at hospitals and for those at Risk people putting them in danger. Agree, many people have no issue with COVID but it appears enough do that our hospitals are full of COVID patients. My guess is this is not an issue for most people as they are not needing hospitalization but if you did it would be a big problem. If COVID was risking my loved-ones health I would have a problem with all the COVIID patients taking the hospital resources. Unfortunately this is not a one size fits all problem, not sure what the answer is.I don't know either, but I do NOT think vaccine mandates are the answer. It sets a dangerous precedent IMO |
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Post by Catscratch on Sept 27, 2021 10:26:48 GMT -6
Bingo, it's nobody's business. What really pisses me off is when someone ends up in the hospital due to covid and the first thing someone asks is if they were vaccinated. What does it matter? They are sick and hurting, why gloat that they if they weren't vaccinated? There are no guarantees in this life. The reason it has become a public debate is that COVID is consuming much of the capacities at hospitals and for those at Risk people putting them in danger. Agree, many people have no issue with COVID but it appears enough do that our hospitals are full of COVID patients. My guess is this is not an issue for most people as they are not needing hospitalization but if you did it would be a big problem. If COVID was risking my loved-ones health I would have a problem with all the COVIID patients taking the hospital resources. Unfortunately this is not a one size fits all problem, not sure what the answer is. I get that. Having overflow in the hospitals is a scary situation. And I understand the debate but I don't agree with it for various reasons. What's the solution to lack of beds; mandate vaccines, fire healthcare workers, refuse treatment for those who aren't masked while running 5 miles a day and maintaining social distance? The way I see it is that we are currently in a situation that encourages punishment of those who don't make the same choices at you. We all have a line in the sand on what we will (or will not do) for our personal health; for some it's diet, some it's exercise, for some its a the vaccine/meds. In my opinion it's pretty judgmental to criticize someone not vaccinated while at the same time not doing everything possible to be healthy (which I believe almost nobody does). We all pick and choose what we are willing to do. If hospitals are overflowing why aren't we as a country rallying to produce more medical equipment and house it in hotels or college dorms as remote covid wings? Why not use the military facilities for overflow? Why aren't we training more medical personnel? If the hospitals are overflowing with covid patients then we should be trying to overcome the problem, not beat each other down. I don't agree with how things are being run and the general view of our citizens right now. I hear it too much. I don't care if the guy who's in the hospital had his shots or not, I care that we are trying to help him through the sickness. He made a choice just like we all do every day. Instead, I'm hearing resentment and hatred towards those who are sick. I'm just sick of hearing the hatred towards people for the health choices they make. I also feel there are other solutions towards the overflow problem that doesn't involve forcing/mandating personal health choices. Sorry, rant over. |
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Post by sd51555 on Sept 27, 2021 10:36:25 GMT -6
The reason it has become a public debate is that COVID is consuming much of the capacities at hospitals and for those at Risk people putting them in danger. Agree, many people have no issue with COVID but it appears enough do that our hospitals are full of COVID patients. My guess is this is not an issue for most people as they are not needing hospitalization but if you did it would be a big problem. If COVID was risking my loved-ones health I would have a problem with all the COVIID patients taking the hospital resources. Unfortunately this is not a one size fits all problem, not sure what the answer is. I get that. Having overflow in the hospitals is a scary situation. And I understand the debate but I don't agree with it for various reasons. What's the solution to lack of beds; mandate vaccines, fire healthcare workers, refuse treatment for those who aren't masked while running 5 miles a day and maintaining social distance? The way I see it is that we are currently in a situation that encourages punishment of those who don't make the same choices at you. We all have a line in the sand on what we will (or will not do) for our personal health; for some it's diet, some it's exercise, for some its a the vaccine/meds. In my opinion it's pretty judgmental to criticize someone not vaccinated while at the same time not doing everything possible to be healthy (which I believe almost nobody does). We all pick and choose what we are willing to do. If hospitals are overflowing why aren't we as a country rallying to produce more medical equipment and house it in hotels or college dorms as remote covid wings? Why not use the military facilities for overflow? Why aren't we training more medical personnel? If the hospitals are overflowing with covid patients then we should be trying to overcome the problem, not beat each other down. I don't agree with how things are being run and the general view of our citizens right now. I hear it too much. I don't care if the guy who's in the hospital had his shots or not, I care that we are trying to help him through the sickness. He made a choice just like we all do every day. Instead, I'm hearing resentment and hatred towards those who are sick. I'm just sick of hearing the hatred towards people for the health choices they make. I also feel there are other solutions towards the overflow problem that doesn't involve forcing/mandating personal health choices. Sorry, rant over.  |
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Post by Sandbur on Sept 27, 2021 12:06:19 GMT -6
So what is going to happen when so many nurses are fired for not receiving the vaccine? Has it started all ready?
Will some hospitals have to drop this mandate to stay in business?
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Post by smsmith on Sept 27, 2021 12:46:01 GMT -6
So what is going to happen when so many nurses are fired for not receiving the vaccine? Has it started all ready?
Will some hospitals have to drop this mandate to stay in business? I believe it started today in NY. The governor there is saying she may call in the National Guard to work in hospitals. |
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Post by MoBuckChaser on Sept 27, 2021 12:48:37 GMT -6
The reason it has become a public debate is that COVID is consuming much of the capacities at hospitals and for those at Risk people putting them in danger. Agree, many people have no issue with COVID but it appears enough do that our hospitals are full of COVID patients. My guess is this is not an issue for most people as they are not needing hospitalization but if you did it would be a big problem. If COVID was risking my loved-ones health I would have a problem with all the COVIID patients taking the hospital resources. Unfortunately this is not a one size fits all problem, not sure what the answer is. I get that. Having overflow in the hospitals is a scary situation. And I understand the debate but I don't agree with it for various reasons. What's the solution to lack of beds; mandate vaccines, fire healthcare workers, refuse treatment for those who aren't masked while running 5 miles a day and maintaining social distance? The way I see it is that we are currently in a situation that encourages punishment of those who don't make the same choices at you. We all have a line in the sand on what we will (or will not do) for our personal health; for some it's diet, some it's exercise, for some its a the vaccine/meds. In my opinion it's pretty judgmental to criticize someone not vaccinated while at the same time not doing everything possible to be healthy (which I believe almost nobody does). We all pick and choose what we are willing to do. If hospitals are overflowing why aren't we as a country rallying to produce more medical equipment and house it in hotels or college dorms as remote covid wings? Why not use the military facilities for overflow? Why aren't we training more medical personnel? If the hospitals are overflowing with covid patients then we should be trying to overcome the problem, not beat each other down. I don't agree with how things are being run and the general view of our citizens right now. I hear it too much. I don't care if the guy who's in the hospital had his shots or not, I care that we are trying to help him through the sickness. He made a choice just like we all do every day. Instead, I'm hearing resentment and hatred towards those who are sick. I'm just sick of hearing the hatred towards people for the health choices they make. I also feel there are other solutions towards the overflow problem that doesn't involve forcing/mandating personal health choices. Sorry, rant over. Because the covid overflow ain't happening is my guess. Our town had a big uproar last year as the emergency management team in our area designated our local hockey rink as the morgue when this bullshit started last year. since then One guy died of Covid so far. And he had so much other shit wrong with him a cold breeze could have killed him. People need to stop watching the news. LOL! |
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Post by benmnwi on Sept 27, 2021 12:58:18 GMT -6
So what is going to happen when so many nurses are fired for not receiving the vaccine? Has it started all ready?
Will some hospitals have to drop this mandate to stay in business? I believe it started today in NY. The governor there is saying she may call in the National Guard to work in hospitals. I believe I would postpone my medical procedure if tank drivers are filling the nursing roles. |
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