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Post by benmnwi on Jun 20, 2021 15:52:16 GMT -6
it is tough to see by the picture, but my grafts are doing well. The larger rootstock made a big difference and improved my luck versus the tiny rootstock from last year. I went 14/16 and I have at least one survivor from all of the varieties. My top working on large frankentrees did well when topworked early, but those grafted in June didn't do as well. It seems like I have better luck when topworking if I have some shade on the scion. Maybe leaving the nurse limb or limbs on the south side. If I am just adding scion to a limb on a flowering crab, the south side of the tree is not the best choice. Perhaps earlier topworking helps with the heat we have had in June. The scion looked good when I grafted in June, but very few were successful. Pretty much the opposite of what I saw with the early grafts. It was worth a shot though since I had some scion leftover and I had nothing to lose. I never really thought about shading the grafts, but I know it was pretty hot after my June top working.
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Post by benmnwi on Jun 20, 2021 15:53:53 GMT -6
I have a bunch of the double grafts- where I used 2 scion sticks because the rootstock diameter was large. When do you guys prune one off?
I'm surprised how well that worked. This is the first time Ive tried that.
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Post by Sandbur on Jun 20, 2021 16:09:28 GMT -6
I have a bunch of the double grafts- where I used 2 scion sticks because the rootstock diameter was large. When do you guys prune one off? I'm surprised how well that worked. This is the first time Ive tried that. Stu has more experience than me. I have left the two grafts on one at present, but did take off a side growth from one of the seconds.
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Post by nhmountains on Jun 20, 2021 21:07:28 GMT -6
I have a bunch of the double grafts- where I used 2 scion sticks because the rootstock diameter was large. When do you guys prune one off? I'm surprised how well that worked. This is the first time Ive tried that. I usually wait until the following February/March. Less stress on the tree after the winter dormancy. My guess on the poor grafting results for June is the heat dried out the scion. I’ve seen a few videos where put a plastic bag over the work to create a greenhouse. I’d try shading the work too. Remember that most people acclimate their grafts when moving outside by putting them in the shade and gradually giving them more light.
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Post by smsmith on Jun 21, 2021 7:01:47 GMT -6
I wait until the following spring before removing one of the double grafts. I like to make sure they both wake up before making the decision on which to remove.
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Post by Reagan on Jul 3, 2021 8:45:28 GMT -6
My crab apple grafts to wild crabs are mostly a bust. 1 out of 11 is growing. 2-3 don’t look shriveled so maybe they wake up? Persimmon grafting was much better. Since they wake up late I did them after the apples I’m not sure if persimmon is easier or just had more practice. I had about 5-6 of these take and they are growing great. The picture above is 12-18” of new growth.
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Post by nhmountains on Jul 3, 2021 10:25:49 GMT -6
Nice work Reagan. I’d get done cages on those trees because the deer will eventually browse all that new growth off if they get a chance.
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Post by Reagan on Jul 3, 2021 13:11:04 GMT -6
Deer don’t seem to browse persimmon. I have many dozens if not hundreds of persimmon saplings coming up and no sign of browse.
That statement might have jinxed me with the grafts.
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Post by smsmith on Jul 4, 2021 6:47:37 GMT -6
Deer don’t seem to browse persimmon. I have many dozens if not hundreds of persimmon saplings coming up and no sign of browse. That statement might have jinxed me with the grafts. I had always heard/been told the same thing about deer not browsing persimmons. When I tried growing them on the old place, deer hammered them. I'm guessing it was the new/different deal
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Post by Reagan on Jul 11, 2021 16:56:33 GMT -6
Deer don’t seem to browse persimmon. I have many dozens if not hundreds of persimmon saplings coming up and no sign of browse. That statement might have jinxed me with the grafts. Called it. I jinxed it. Something snapped this graft off. Could have been a bird or a deer. At least the other one is intact. It was pretty recent so I snipped it, pulled the leaves and grafted it to another tree. Probably no chance it will take but what the hell.
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Post by Reagan on Jul 30, 2021 19:28:51 GMT -6
What is the next step? Do I need to remove tape or grafting compound?
I’m thinking on the trees where both succeeded, I’ll snip the lesser one off this winter and try grafting it again. Or is a second round of grafting the same scion not a good idea?
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Post by smallchunk on Aug 5, 2021 6:17:51 GMT -6
What is the next step? Do I need to remove tape or grafting compound? I’m thinking on the trees where both succeeded, I’ll snip the lesser one off this winter and try grafting it again. Or is a second round of grafting the same scion not a good idea? Use this years growth as scion for next spring. Would be a great use of that wood instead of throwing it on the ground 👍🏼
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Post by smsmith on Aug 13, 2021 10:17:21 GMT -6
2021 apple grafts. The tallest is maybe 3'. I've had them on the north side of my shop all summer. They'll stay in the pot until next spring, I'll dig the pot into the soil somewhere for winter.
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Post by gsquared23 on Aug 27, 2021 19:13:21 GMT -6
Best of my bench grafts this year: King David on Dolgo. Others have done ok, but this was the best by far. (I’m 6’1 for reference)
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Post by smsmith on Aug 27, 2021 19:20:47 GMT -6
^^^heckuva graft dude. Well done
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