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Post by Sandbur on Jan 7, 2023 6:43:53 GMT -6
Took a trip to Spicer today. Deer and pheasant were really out. Every conifer area had does/fawns and a few bucks.The tracks/sign by the thick conifer areas was amazing. It will save some deer, and birds. I think we have found the real reason why the government wants to rip out every tree they find on their wildlife lands.
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Post by Bwoods11 on Jan 7, 2023 8:51:39 GMT -6
I can’t imagine how many more pheasants and deer we’d have if the public lands in farm country had one or two 5 acre L shaped shelterbelts…Near the cattails/wetlands and with one of two acres of corn or sorghum .
Wishful thinking I guess !
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Post by smsmith on Jan 7, 2023 9:27:43 GMT -6
Took a trip to Spicer today. Deer and pheasant were really out. Every conifer area had does/fawns and a few bucks.The tracks/sign by the thick conifer areas was amazing. It will save some deer, and birds. I think we have found the real reason why the government wants to rip out every tree they find on their wildlife lands. It really makes a guy wonder doesn't it... There's a big chunk of NWSG somewhere around Rose City. We drove through the WMA on a Ranger ride last fall. Very few trees to be seen.
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Post by Bwoods11 on Jan 7, 2023 9:40:57 GMT -6
Lac Qui Parle Count/Mn had beautiful shelter belts on public land. 10 rows in some cases with Conifers, oaks, shrubs etc… I’ve walked them with friends many years ago .
Pheasants and deer were in there . I think we saw 15 (pheasant) in one 1/4 mile tree row.
Rumor is the DNR has dozed some off then. They really got a lot of heat from the hunters. The guy that planted them had died and they moved on… that was the story ?
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Post by Sandbur on Jan 7, 2023 10:50:17 GMT -6
I think the emphasis on public lands,even wildlife management areas, is no longer on the species we hunt.
The ecologists are in charge and they favor someone’s vision of what the area looked like before the white man arrived. I don’t feel they realize that those lands were always in a stage of flux with different types of management by the various tribes.
Concerns are for pollinator species, which might be valid in some areas, and for threatened species. I suspect Minnesota will now push emphasis on education with trails and signs, and other types of public use besides hunting.
Our WMA’s will start a trend towards state parks, I fear. Beginning near the metro areas.
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Post by Sandbur on Jan 7, 2023 10:57:37 GMT -6
I can’t imagine how many more pheasants and deer we’d have if the public lands in farm country had one or two 5 acre L shaped shelterbelts…Near the cattails/wetlands and with one of two acres of corn or sorghum . Wishful thinking I guess ! The concerns over pollinators has been one reason for not allowing corn plots. When I served on the deer management group, this was a suggestion I made for WMA’s. It had lots of support but was definitely a no go from the DNR. A local Sportsmans Club (Rice) had worked with various programs to create a WMA. Many members are not quite happy with DNR management and have held some lands under the clubs control. Foodplots, trees, shrubs, and grasses have been planted. A qualified, trained club member has helped with the planning.
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Post by Bwoods11 on Jan 11, 2023 9:06:20 GMT -6
If I were to reverse course, I’d spend more time with caging and weed mat on my tree plantings. Maybe take an acre at a time and cage/mat each tree. I planted 2500 trees in Otter Tail County and the caged pines are 6 feet tall.. the ones without cages are dead or 6 inches tall.
The tubed oaks are alive, but I can’t even find the other ones… spruce and tamarack are doing better without the cage. The spruce are getting browsed though.
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Post by smsmith on Jan 11, 2023 9:22:32 GMT -6
One issue with conifers around here is that there aren't a lot of them. Then, you get a winter like this and they get browsed big time. I've got 10-12 year old red and Scotch pine that are getting hammered. By spring they'll have no needles below 5-7' or so. They are leaving the spruces alone for now, but I bet they get hit soon too. Even the spreading/bush junipers are getting browsed to death.
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Post by badgerfowl on Jan 11, 2023 10:17:55 GMT -6
Conifers at our river bottom place barely get touched. They get annihilated in our hills place. Think it's because the deer abandon the river bottoms in the winter mainly. Both have an abundance of deer.
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Post by smsmith on Jan 11, 2023 13:50:18 GMT -6
Conifers at our river bottom place barely get touched. They get annihilated in our hills place. Think it's because the deer abandon the river bottoms in the winter mainly. Both have an abundance of deer. Yep. Deer are bunched up on/near my place big time. Get a mile or two south and finding a track gets tough. I sure wish somebody in this area would hire a logger or fire up the saw themselves.
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Post by Bwoods11 on Jan 11, 2023 14:09:23 GMT -6
Deer hammer the trees in the winter (in these conditions) .. luckily a few young trees are buried.
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Post by nitro27 on Jan 19, 2023 17:09:23 GMT -6
This seems like a favorite bedding spot at my place, I get both day and night pics of deer bedding down. 7 in this pic woods to the N
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Post by Bwoods11 on Mar 17, 2023 11:30:47 GMT -6
I know my spruce and cedar trees are a haven for pheasants right now .
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Post by Sandbur on Mar 17, 2023 12:56:39 GMT -6
I know my spruce and cedar trees are a haven for pheasants right now . And our government agencies are removing all of the trees from many management nor wildlife lands.
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Post by Sandbur on Mar 17, 2023 12:57:46 GMT -6
I know my spruce and cedar trees are a haven for pheasants right now . And our government agencies are removing all of the trees from many management nor wildlife lands. I meant to say ‘or’ wildlife lands. Maybe nor wildlife is a more fitting name.
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