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Post by smsmith on Nov 23, 2022 9:42:29 GMT -6
I'm just going to keep most all of my plots in a clover mix. Hit them with whatever chemicals I need to in order to keep them relatively weed/grass free. I will continue the Fixation Balansa/brassica mix rotation on one plot.
I'm done spending much money on foodplots.
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Post by honker on Nov 25, 2022 14:06:54 GMT -6
I'm just going to keep most all of my plots in a clover mix. Hit them with whatever chemicals I need to in order to keep them relatively weed/grass free. I will continue the Fixation Balansa/brassica mix rotation on one plot. I'm done spending much money on foodplots. I like this plan. do you kill off the clover before seeding in the brassica or do they not compete much in late summer?
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Post by smsmith on Nov 25, 2022 15:37:30 GMT -6
I'm just going to keep most all of my plots in a clover mix. Hit them with whatever chemicals I need to in order to keep them relatively weed/grass free. I will continue the Fixation Balansa/brassica mix rotation on one plot. I'm done spending much money on foodplots. I like this plan. do you kill off the clover before seeding in the brassica or do they not compete much in late summer? by July a lot of the fixation is dying back. I do still spray, mainly to suppress any clover and hopefully nuke annual weeds. I've been doing this on one plot for 3 or 4 years now. Seems to work good enough for me
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Post by nitro27 on Dec 8, 2022 19:52:32 GMT -6
Never have planted much clover, except for a couple of small plots mostly full sun. l have about 1.5-2 acres of new area to plant next year. What clover or clover mix will do the best in shady area?
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Post by badgerfowl on Dec 12, 2022 10:36:37 GMT -6
Never have planted much clover, except for a couple of small plots mostly full sun. l have about 1.5-2 acres of new area to plant next year. What clover or clover mix will do the best in shady area? As long as it gets some sun, I'd think just about any clover would work. My best clover gets some shade, whether its white or red.
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Post by benmnwi on Dec 12, 2022 12:17:16 GMT -6
Never have planted much clover, except for a couple of small plots mostly full sun. l have about 1.5-2 acres of new area to plant next year. What clover or clover mix will do the best in shady area? If your soil has a decent pH, 6.5-7.0 you could also throw in some vernal alfalfa with the clover blend (I like a mix of ladino and red clover, but other white clovers are good as well). I also like to add some chicory to my clover/alfalfa blends as well.
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Post by honker on Dec 15, 2022 22:52:59 GMT -6
For those of you that run multiple small plots (0.5-1 acre), do you plant the same thing in each to keep the deer movement similar across all of them or do you plant them intentionally different to steer deer movement on the property (early season vs late season)?
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Post by Sandbur on Dec 16, 2022 6:04:07 GMT -6
For those of you that run multiple small plots (0.5-1 acre), do you plant the same thing in each to keep the deer movement similar across all of them or do you plant them intentionally different to steer deer movement on the property (early season vs late season)? My situation and environment is considerably different than yours, but my plots have been corn on corn for years. In 30 years, I did lime the plots once. I should run a pH test since I haven’t run one in years. I like the standing corn for the rifle rut hunt and especially for winter survival of the deer. Plus I can often sit and watch deer from my recliner or the dinner table.
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Post by Reagan on Dec 16, 2022 6:15:49 GMT -6
For those of you that run multiple small plots (0.5-1 acre), do you plant the same thing in each to keep the deer movement similar across all of them or do you plant them intentionally different to steer deer movement on the property (early season vs late season)? I do the same stuff. Clover and grain. Throw in some brassica that mostly fails due to competition and lack of late summer rain. I’d love to grow corn but don’t have the acreage or desire to spend on the inputs. I like to think I can get separate doe groups that have what they need and bucks will travel to check them all out.
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Post by Sandbur on Dec 16, 2022 6:56:16 GMT -6
For those of you that run multiple small plots (0.5-1 acre), do you plant the same thing in each to keep the deer movement similar across all of them or do you plant them intentionally different to steer deer movement on the property (early season vs late season)? I do the same stuff. Clover and grain. Throw in some brassica that mostly fails due to competition and lack of late summer rain. I’d love to grow corn but don’t have the acreage or desire to spend on the inputs. I like to think I can get separate doe groups that have what they need and bucks will travel to check them all out. I wouldn’t have corn if I didn’t have a renter of my ag land that also likes to deer hunt. The renters live on my section and they know I have the best wintering area in about 3 sections.
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Post by smsmith on Dec 16, 2022 7:26:16 GMT -6
All of my plots are small. All have at least some clover. One is clover/brassica. All get used from spring green up until there's too much snow to make digging through not worth it. I have plots nearly from end to end of the property. I set it up that way to encourage travel along the entire property. It seems to have worked.
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Post by Foggy on Dec 16, 2022 8:22:27 GMT -6
I like this plan. do you kill off the clover before seeding in the brassica or do they not compete much in late summer? by July a lot of the fixation is dying back. I do still spray, mainly to suppress any clover and hopefully nuke annual weeds. I've been doing this on one plot for 3 or 4 years now. Seems to work good enough for me Last year I tried to just mow some of my (red and while) clover real short and then drill the brassica into it. That did not pan-out very well.....as the clover came back to quickly crowd out the brasica. This year I plan to nuke (2 qt./s Glyphosate) some areas in my clover plots. When they turn brown.....I will drill the brassica mix into those areas. I do plan to keep a perimeter of clover in those plots......and just nuke some smaller areas within the plots. May try this with som sorghum / Sudan too.......or perhaps corn/ beans. In late August / early Sept I will overseed rye into the brassica and drill rye into the clover for a cover crop and next years mulch. The rye has proven to be a fail-safe fall attraction to boot.....plus it there in early spring when most needed.
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Post by honker on Dec 16, 2022 8:54:03 GMT -6
All of my plots are small. All have at least some clover. One is clover/brassica. All get used from spring green up until there's too much snow to make digging through not worth it. I have plots nearly from end to end of the property. I set it up that way to encourage travel along the entire property. It seems to have worked. That sort of what I’m working towards over time. I have my largest plots on the west and east edge and have been adding a few smaller plots and clear cuts in between. Setting up to be somewhat of an odd shape track around the perimeter and bedding in the middle. What’s the typical distance in between plots you have maintained?
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Post by smsmith on Dec 16, 2022 8:59:04 GMT -6
All of my plots are small. All have at least some clover. One is clover/brassica. All get used from spring green up until there's too much snow to make digging through not worth it. I have plots nearly from end to end of the property. I set it up that way to encourage travel along the entire property. It seems to have worked. That sort of what I’m working towards over time. I have my largest plots on the west and east edge and have been adding a few smaller plots in between. What’s the typical distance in between plots you have maintained? Good question. I don't think there is a typical distance. My property is odd shaped, much longer N-S than E-W. I'd guess the longest distance between plots (I'm considering my orchards with clover a plot as well) is 200 yards and the shortest between plots maybe 70 yards. The north end of this parcel is much wider than the south end, so there's more plots on that end.
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Post by Sandbur on Dec 16, 2022 9:40:19 GMT -6
That sort of what I’m working towards over time. I have my largest plots on the west and east edge and have been adding a few smaller plots in between. What’s the typical distance in between plots you have maintained? Good question. I don't think there is a typical distance. My property is odd shaped, much longer N-S than E-W. I'd guess the longest distance between plots (I'm considering my orchards with clover a plot as well) is 200 yards and the shortest between plots maybe 70 yards. The north end of this parcel is much wider than the south end, so there's more plots on that end. Are those north plots attracting more deer to the line for neighbors?
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