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Post by smsmith on Dec 16, 2022 10:01:15 GMT -6
Good question. I don't think there is a typical distance. My property is odd shaped, much longer N-S than E-W. I'd guess the longest distance between plots (I'm considering my orchards with clover a plot as well) is 200 yards and the shortest between plots maybe 70 yards. The north end of this parcel is much wider than the south end, so there's more plots on that end. Are those north plots attracting more deer to the line for neighbors? Maybe. The nearest plot edge to the line is about 100 yards. Most of the plot areas are more like 200 yards away. I can't give up my lines of movement just because of the neighbors though. My other orchards/plots also impact the east neighbors and west neighbors. Until I own a section of ground and put all the plots in the middle of the acreage, whatever I do will impact the neighbors.
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Post by Sandbur on Dec 16, 2022 11:37:26 GMT -6
Are those north plots attracting more deer to the line for neighbors? Maybe. The nearest plot edge to the line is about 100 yards. Most of the plot areas are more like 200 yards away. I can't give up my lines of movement just because of the neighbors though. My other orchards/plots also impact the east neighbors and west neighbors. Until I own a section of ground and put all the plots in the middle of the acreage, whatever I do will impact the neighbors. Most of us here will never own that much ground either. It happens.
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Post by badgerfowl on Dec 16, 2022 12:30:35 GMT -6
For those of you that run multiple small plots (0.5-1 acre), do you plant the same thing in each to keep the deer movement similar across all of them or do you plant them intentionally different to steer deer movement on the property (early season vs late season)? My situation and environment is considerably different than yours, but my plots have been corn on corn for years. In 30 years, I did lime the plots once. I should run a pH test since I haven’t run one in years. I like the standing corn for the rifle rut hunt and especially for winter survival of the deer. Plus I can often sit and watch deer from my recliner or the dinner table. I know I asked about your driveway in that aerial you posted. Is your gun stand fairly close to the house then?
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Post by Sandbur on Dec 16, 2022 14:30:39 GMT -6
My situation and environment is considerably different than yours, but my plots have been corn on corn for years. In 30 years, I did lime the plots once. I should run a pH test since I haven’t run one in years. I like the standing corn for the rifle rut hunt and especially for winter survival of the deer. Plus I can often sit and watch deer from my recliner or the dinner table. I know I asked about your driveway in that aerial you posted. Is your gun stand fairly close to the house then? i walk across the yard and thru a windbreak. The stand is on the outer edge of the windbreak
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Post by badgerfowl on Dec 16, 2022 14:53:44 GMT -6
That's awesome! Someday I hope to be able to just walk out the door and hunt.
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Post by smsmith on Dec 16, 2022 17:44:59 GMT -6
That's awesome! Someday I hope to be able to just walk out the door and hunt. once you do it you'll never not be able to hunt that way again
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Post by Sandbur on Dec 16, 2022 17:54:24 GMT -6
My uncle hunted well into his 90’s and shot some nice bucks for what we see in the north country. His stand was behind the house and just through the wind break. His stand was some old platform he found that was one step high with a folding chair on it and a home made shooting rail on one side, with brush leaning against it. He walked with a cane .
I have told the story before, but I asked him why he was so successful. His answer...Patience and Prayer.
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Post by smsmith on Dec 16, 2022 18:52:17 GMT -6
My uncle hunted well into his 90’s and shot some nice bucks for what we see in the north country. His stand was behind the house and just through the wind break. His stand was some old platform he found that was one step high with a folding chair on it and a home made shooting rail on one side, with brush leaning against it. He walked with a cane . I have told the story before, but I asked him why he was so successful. His answer...Patience and Prayer.and maybe a sixer of Premium?
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Post by Sandbur on Dec 16, 2022 19:27:55 GMT -6
My uncle hunted well into his 90’s and shot some nice bucks for what we see in the north country. His stand was behind the house and just through the wind break. His stand was some old platform he found that was one step high with a folding chair on it and a home made shooting rail on one side, with brush leaning against it. He walked with a cane . I have told the story before, but I asked him why he was so successful. His answer...Patience and Prayer.and maybe a sixer of Premium? He didn’t drink much in his older days.
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Post by kooch on Dec 17, 2022 11:33:25 GMT -6
That's awesome! Someday I hope to be able to just walk out the door and hunt. once you do it you'll never not be able to hunt that way again I have to admit, I miss the food plotting and adventures of my old place up north. I miss hearing wolves at night and listening to things make horrendous noises outside at 3AM. I miss the disconnection from the world I got when I was there. I miss miles and miles of trees. I miss feeling like I ought to have a gun and a couple ways to make a fire when I ventured into the boonies to chase game. I don’t miss the drive though. Killing a deer this year 75 yards from my couch did have its own satisfaction. No plot. No box blind. Just a grove of trees, a couple trail cameras, my muzzle loader and a plan.
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Post by nhmountains on Dec 17, 2022 11:58:56 GMT -6
Never have planted much clover, except for a couple of small plots mostly full sun. l have about 1.5-2 acres of new area to plant next year. What clover or clover mix will do the best in shady area? Medium red is hard to beat from what I’ve seen on my land.
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Post by kooch on Dec 17, 2022 12:13:28 GMT -6
Never have planted much clover, except for a couple of small plots mostly full sun. l have about 1.5-2 acres of new area to plant next year. What clover or clover mix will do the best in shady area? Medium red is hard to beat from what I’ve seen on my land. I was extremely impressed with the Alice White clover that Doubletree always raved about at my old place.
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Post by Freeborn on Dec 17, 2022 12:17:20 GMT -6
Medium red is hard to beat from what I’ve seen on my land. I was extremely impressed with the Alice White clover that Doubletree always raved about at my old place. Alice White is what I have used on my place and it competes well, grows thick and the deer browse it.
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Post by Foggy on Dec 17, 2022 12:17:35 GMT -6
Never have planted much clover, except for a couple of small plots mostly full sun. l have about 1.5-2 acres of new area to plant next year. What clover or clover mix will do the best in shady area? Medium red is hard to beat from what I’ve seen on my land. Medium Red is fine for a few seasons and I plant a little each fall with my rye....but will wither over a few years. It's at a decent price tho.....and if you want to release the N credits that clover brings for your next crop....then Medium Red is fine. If you want a longer term clover plot....then add some white clover to your Medium Red. I've planted many of the various white clovers with good success. Alice white is affordable and pretty aggressive. Duranna is popular as are others. The Welters website has a good description of the various clovers. I am going to plant more crimson clover in the time to come.....and see if I can make that grow. It's not a long term clover.....but I would be planting it to get the N credits toward my next brasica crop....thus kinda like growing your own fertilizer. Same goes for winter rye...when you terminate it you get those fertilizers benefits......and mulch to prevent weeds.
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Post by Sandbur on Dec 17, 2022 12:19:38 GMT -6
Medium red is hard to beat from what I’ve seen on my land. I was extremely impressed with the Alice White clover that Doubletree always raved about at my old place. I think foggy used that. You can still make an occasional trip up north. I like the north country, too. Where I grew up is turning into lake country homes, but once I am in the woods I can remember how it used to be. Still, there is solitude in farm country where I live.
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