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Post by Bwoods11 on Jan 3, 2023 15:06:39 GMT -6
I'd guess those holding leaves are American Hophornbeam aka Ironwood. They could be American Hornbeam (also aka as Ironwood)too, but they are much less prone to holding leaves IME They don’t look like it? But maybe the bark changes as they get older. These are darker black and smooth? I honestly don’t know. But as I mentioned before the forester was really excited about the black 🍒 cherry. But I’ve only found 5 or 6 mature black cherries in 30 acres? SO I wasn’t sure it was accurate?
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Post by smsmith on Jan 3, 2023 15:12:50 GMT -6
I'd guess those holding leaves are American Hophornbeam aka Ironwood. They could be American Hornbeam (also aka as Ironwood)too, but they are much less prone to holding leaves IME They don’t look like it? But maybe the bark changes as they get older. These are darker black and smooth? I honestly don’t know. But as I mentioned before the forester was really excited about the black 🍒 cherry. But I’ve only found 5 or 6 mature black cherries in 30 acres? SO I wasn’t sure it was accurate? I see one or two trees that look like they may have cherry bark. I have not seen cherry of any kind hold their leaves this long into winter
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Post by biglakebass on Jan 3, 2023 15:17:06 GMT -6
Looks exactly like my dads woods around his house.... full of ironwood. Picture on left side is a snip of one of your images blown up. Pic on the right is one off the internet.
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Post by Bwoods11 on Jan 3, 2023 15:21:58 GMT -6
Looks similar ! Also surprised an ironwood would bend over in the snow .
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Post by nhmountains on Jan 3, 2023 16:05:07 GMT -6
Looks similar ! Also surprised an ironwood would bend over in the snow . Trees with leaves will be more apt to bend with ice and snow on them. More weight.
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Post by smsmith on Jan 3, 2023 18:37:00 GMT -6
Looks similar ! Also surprised an ironwood would bend over in the snow . I had literally thousands of ironwoods bent over in the snow. Some all the way to the ground with their leaves frozen into the snow. Some have straightened up now after some sun and temps around freezing. There's still a lot bent over in shady areas.
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Post by Bwoods11 on Jan 3, 2023 19:22:23 GMT -6
You guys got more snow and ice up north. Nothing is bent over down here in Pope/Swift County.
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Post by smsmith on Jan 4, 2023 8:25:32 GMT -6
I'd like to think a DNR forester can identify just about every tree in the woods from a glance at the bark. I know I can ID most everything that grows here in the winter that way. Some take longer than others (plum vs. cherry vs. buckthorn) but it usually takes no more than a couple extra looks.
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Post by Bwoods11 on Jan 4, 2023 9:00:05 GMT -6
I'd like to think a DNR forester can identify just about every tree in the woods from a glance at the bark. I know I can ID most everything that grows here in the winter that way. Some take longer than others (plum vs. cherry vs. buckthorn) but it usually takes no more than a couple extra looks. Stu.. I was surprised when he said “oh wow look at all the young black Cherry you have in this woods” .. I didn’t believe him. Never seen many, and it’s only in my main woods? Not many cherry in other areas on my farm either…It sure could be young ironwood? But the bark looks nothing like a mature ironwood ! I guess I’ve never looked closely at young ironwood.
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Post by smsmith on Jan 4, 2023 9:56:07 GMT -6
^^^that tree's bark is not an Ironwood (either type) to my eyes. The leaves in the background dp appear to be Ironwood though. I do find black and pin cherry intermingled with Ironwood here
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Post by Bwoods11 on Jan 4, 2023 14:27:45 GMT -6
I’ll inspect that timber this spring and identify as many trees as possible . I’m gonna hinge some of the ironwood, and take out a few crooked and busted up oak and ash for sunlight… make it more thick bedding !
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Post by nhmountains on Jan 4, 2023 16:33:55 GMT -6
I'd like to think a DNR forester can identify just about every tree in the woods from a glance at the bark. I know I can ID most everything that grows here in the winter that way. Some take longer than others (plum vs. cherry vs. buckthorn) but it usually takes no more than a couple extra looks. Stu.. I was surprised when he said “oh wow look at all the young black Cherry you have in this woods” .. I didn’t believe him. Never seen many, and it’s only in my main woods? Not many cherry in other areas on my farm either…It sure could be young ironwood? But the bark looks nothing like a mature ironwood ! I guess I’ve never looked closely at young ironwood. That bark does look more like black cherry. We have black birch here and they look similar until they get to 3-4”. We have striped maple here. The young ones are still holding their leaves.
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Post by Foggy on Jan 4, 2023 17:49:42 GMT -6
I'd like to think a DNR forester can identify just about every tree in the woods from a glance at the bark. I know I can ID most everything that grows here in the winter that way. Some take longer than others (plum vs. cherry vs. buckthorn) but it usually takes no more than a couple extra looks. Yeah....I believe you Stu.....but as my step father said to me....."You ain't no ordinary dummy". lol
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Post by Bwoods11 on Jan 9, 2023 19:16:49 GMT -6
I’m 90% sure this buck moved in to my farm because it’s a wintering area. No pics of him all year, neighbors-nope. He’s a nice young one. Hopefully I can find his sheds !
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Post by Sandbur on Jan 10, 2023 5:28:59 GMT -6
As an old man who needs to get up during the night, I see deer feeding and sleeping in our yard. One was sleeping about 30 yards from the house and still there when I got up about 4:15.
I turned the lights on and still there.
I saw 8 during the middle of the night. Some were feeding under a flowering crab.
Just before dark, some were in the corn and some on the alfalfa field.
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