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Post by kl9 on Jul 21, 2017 15:31:52 GMT -6
Confirmed intensive is down to 3. Spoke with Steve Merchant who said DNR will host public input meeting on Jan hunt.
Regardless of what happens, still only 1 buck in 346/349. Not sure on 348
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Post by kl9 on Jul 21, 2017 15:33:13 GMT -6
My area manager agreed that the bag limit of 10 or whatever shouldn't be the whole county, but they don't have ability to manage on smaller scale. He says there a farmers in Money Creek who shoot 30-50 deer every year and the numbers are still high
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Post by biglakebass on Jul 21, 2017 15:47:49 GMT -6
My area manager agreed that the bag limit of 10 or whatever shouldn't be the whole county, but they don't have ability to manage on smaller scale. He says there a farmers in Money Creek who shoot 30-50 deer every year and the numbers are still high Too high according to who? Haaa. The farmer that wants zero?
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Post by kl9 on Jul 21, 2017 15:49:53 GMT -6
High according to population goals set in 2014. I don't agree with the goal or necessarily think the population estimate is accurate, but that is what I mean by "still high."
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Post by sd51555 on Jul 21, 2017 17:07:35 GMT -6
My area manager agreed that the bag limit of 10 or whatever shouldn't be the whole county, but they don't have ability to manage on smaller scale. He says there a farmers in Money Creek who shoot 30-50 deer every year and the numbers are still high There's an exceptional area, southeast of money creek a few miles. We used to booze cruise Paradise Drive/Doblar Rd area and see epic herds, including trophy bachelor groups. But that was confined to a very small area. Here's the route we'd drive. I don't think it's a secret at all, because we used to run into deer creepers all the time on that route. Where each of these arrows are located, there would be 5-50 deer in each spot, and at the same time. The good Lord built that area to grow deer. It's a deep wide valley, the bottom third is row crops, middle third is grass/hay full of clover, and the top third is hardwoods. Many times we'd count upwards of 150 deer in this couple mile stretch of valley. No place else in that area did we see deer like that.
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Post by smsmith on Jul 21, 2017 17:13:20 GMT -6
Hearing that Intensive is "only" three now...I'm almost certain 215 will be Intensive this year
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Post by leexrayshady on Jul 24, 2017 15:39:44 GMT -6
From the Star Tribune
A special January 2018 antlerless whitetail season might be held in three southeastern Minnesota deer permit areas with a bag limit of five animals per hunter, Department of Natural Resources officials said last week.
The proposed hunts in permit areas 346, 348 and 349, which surround such towns as Caledonia, Rushford and Spring Grove, would occur simultaneously with a hunt in Deer Permit Area 603, the special zone established last year after chronic wasting disease (CWD) was discovered in wild deer near Preston and Harmony, Minn.
No bag limit would be placed on hunters in area 603, because the DNR wants to significantly reduce deer numbers there to limit the further spread of CWD.
The January hunt idea in the other three permit areas surprised deer-hunting group leaders last week when the DNR told them about the proposal before a monthly Deer Management Plan Advisory Committee meeting.
That panel was formed last year after the legislative auditor said the DNR should develop a formal deer management plan. DNR Commissioner Tom Landwehr responded that his agency would “work to involve hunters and other stakeholders” in development of a plan — thus the formation of the advisory committee, which has met since January.
“Which is why this took us by such surprise when we were told before our monthly meeting Wednesday that the DNR was proposing a January hunt in the southeast with a five-deer limit,’’ said Craig Engwall, executive director of the Minnesota Deer Hunters Association. “Notice of the hunt will be included in the deer hunting synopsis booklet, which is already at the printer, and we weren’t told anything about it, or consulted, until after the fact.’’
Said Marty Stubstad, a board member of Bluffland Whitetails in the southeast and, like Engwall, an advisory committee member, “When they told us about this on Wednesday I got a big knot in my stomach. How could they drop this on us this way?’’
DNR wildlife populations program manager Steve Merchant emphasized Friday that the hunt hasn’t been finalized, and that at least two public input meetings will be held before it is, one in the Twin Cities and one in the southeast.
The hunts, if they occur, will happen Jan. 6-14 in the three permit areas. The limit of five antlerless deer per hunter would be in addition to five deer allowed in those areas during a fall antlerless season and three allowed in the regular season, for a 13-deer total (only one of which could be a buck). Landowners could take another deer yet.
The deer permit areas are home to relatively high concentrations of trophy bucks, which are valued by hunters in the southeast who worry that some bucks in the region will drop their antlers before the January hunt, rendering them vulnerable to harvest.
Merchant doesn’t think that will happen to a significant degree. “Because we’re exceeding [our deer population] goals in the area, we’re already shooting dozens of deer there in the summer with [landowner] shooting permits, which we don’t like to do,’’ he said.
DNR fish and wildlife division director Jim Leach acknowledged Friday his agency “should have pulled them [deer hunting groups] in a little earlier.’’
Stubstad said his group likely will tell the DNR it doesn’t want the hunt held on public land, of which there is relatively little in the region. “If landowners have a problem, let’s kill deer where the problem is, not wipe out all the deer on the little public land that we have,’’ he said.
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Post by smsmith on Jul 24, 2017 15:46:46 GMT -6
^^^more proof the deer management team is simply a sham
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Post by biglakebass on Jul 24, 2017 15:50:13 GMT -6
Stubstad gets it.
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Post by sd51555 on Jul 24, 2017 18:13:18 GMT -6
“Which is why this took us by such surprise when we were told before our monthly meeting Wednesday that the DNR was proposing a January hunt in the southeast with a five-deer limit,’’ said Craig Engwall, executive director of the Minnesota Deer Hunters Association. “Notice of the hunt will be included in the deer hunting synopsis booklet, which is already at the printer, and we weren’t told anything about it, or consulted, until after the fact.’’ The money is on the dresser bitch.
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Post by biglakebass on Jul 24, 2017 18:59:25 GMT -6
Craig is playing a great poker face.... That fucker knew it was on the plate without question.
He sleeps with Landwehr..... They whispered sweet nothings about it weeks ago while watching Dr Quinn Medicine Woman on netflix....
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Post by kl9 on Jul 24, 2017 20:11:03 GMT -6
Jan?? Ha I'll be ice fishing. Fuck the DNR
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Post by sd51555 on Jul 24, 2017 20:32:44 GMT -6
Aren't the old bucks the main carriers of the disease? Why do they get a pass? Are they just trying to kill all the healthy deer while maintaining viability of the disease?
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Post by biglakebass on Jul 24, 2017 20:39:34 GMT -6
I pondered the same thing SD..... Very good question.
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Post by kl9 on Jul 24, 2017 20:46:45 GMT -6
Late season 603 isn't only doe. That's how I read it
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