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Post by MoBuckChaser on Feb 8, 2017 19:44:25 GMT -6
$20K - $40K annually to lock somebody up too. I usually don't see people complaining about what it costs to imprison folks, but we sure will bitch about educating them. Plenty of research out there showing that the more and better education a person gets, the lower the chances of becoming a criminal (obviously not a guarantee). Towns with crashing enrollment, like most of rural MN...are in a major clusterfuck. I see towns fighting over consolidation because they used to be "rivals" or some other silly shit. Fuck that, want to save money or a false sense of school pride? Want a real kick in the sack? Try looking at that school tax amount and never had a child accessing the school system...or the technical schools...or anything else that gets funded publicly for children. I don't know what the answers are, but I will agree that things need to change. IN MN its the union that does not want to merge schools and fight to keep them alive. More schools mean more teachers to fill them. More teachers pay more union dues!
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Post by smsmith on Feb 8, 2017 19:46:15 GMT -6
It's illegal to drop out (or allow your child to drop out) of school before age 18 in many states. Allow your kid to skip school too much, and the truant officer may be knocking on your door. In WI, parents can be fined fairly substantially for repeatedly truant kids.
Ditch digging will be completed by robots/robotic machinery in the near future.
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Post by MoBuckChaser on Feb 8, 2017 19:48:24 GMT -6
It's illegal to drop out (or allow your child to drop out) of school before age 18 in many states. Allow your kid to skip school too much, and the truant officer may be knocking on your door. In WI, parents can be fined fairly substantially for repeatedly truant kids. Ditch digging will be completed by robots/robotic machinery in the near future. Still have to have a guy to flip the fucking switch on!
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Post by smsmith on Feb 8, 2017 19:50:08 GMT -6
It's illegal to drop out (or allow your child to drop out) of school before age 18 in many states. Allow your kid to skip school too much, and the truant officer may be knocking on your door. In WI, parents can be fined fairly substantially for repeatedly truant kids. Ditch digging will be completed by robots/robotic machinery in the near future. Still have to have a guy to flip the fucking switch on! That'll be done remotely by somebody with an education in robotics My SIL has a degree in mechatronics...the shit that is coming in the near future is mind boggling.
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Post by Satchmo on Feb 8, 2017 19:50:52 GMT -6
What I don't understand is, if the job sucks that bad. stop funding the schools and let the kids get a online education and be done with it! A free and appropriate education for every student is required by federal law. Parents can opt to homeschool or do online schooling at home, but that is up to them to do so. Once they choose to do that, the expense is on them directly. Education is expensive, no doubt. The quality of education in states like MN and WI is top notch...that's proven year after year by looking at ACT/SAT scores on a nationwide basis. Could it be done for less money? I'd say yes, but it would require a complete overhaul of the system and a completely different way of looking at education. Want to see a huge spike in crime rates? Close the schools and make parents responsible for their children 24/7/365. Which one is going to quit their job to supervise/educate the kids? I think the public school system is under more financial pressure today than ever before. An education is required by law, but it is not free, and the struggle for those dollars is intense. Personal observations....The public schools are losing out to a multitude of supposedly free charter and online schools that get the per pupil govt money transferred to them when the student leaves the public system and goes to those other options. This leaves the public schools with declining enrollment, while the charter schools build additions or move to bigger facilities. This leaves districts with an uncertain future to plan for. Does that mean I agree with every bond referendum funding option or the in vogue MEGA schools? Hell no! But I too think that society is way better off with our kids in brick & mortar buildings than anywhere else.
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Post by MoBuckChaser on Feb 8, 2017 19:57:36 GMT -6
We built a great country the last 150 years with kids with a size 44 jacket and a size 4 cap. Not the other way around.....
The other way around will destroy it in the next 150 years.......
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Post by smsmith on Feb 8, 2017 20:03:47 GMT -6
We built a great country the last 150 years with kids with a size 44 jacket and a size 4 cap. Not the other way around..... The other way around will destroy it in the next 150 years....... Ya, that began to change at least 20 years ago. In the next 20 years some sort of education will be far, far more important than it is now. I'm not a fan of teaching every kid Shakespeare however. I'd much prefer to teach "English" to some kids who want it (and their parents) by using technical manuals...then teach them how to run/fix/design/whatever those machines/robots/whatever...then have those kids leave school upon demonstrating proficiency and begin working in their field of training.
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Post by badbrad on Feb 8, 2017 20:06:14 GMT -6
I love you guys
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Post by MoBuckChaser on Feb 8, 2017 20:08:11 GMT -6
We built a great country the last 150 years with kids with a size 44 jacket and a size 4 cap. Not the other way around..... The other way around will destroy it in the next 150 years....... Ya, that began to change at least 20 years ago. In the next 20 years some sort of education will be far, far more important than it is now. I'm not a fan of teaching every kid Shakespeare however. I'd much prefer to teach "English" to some kids who want it (and their parents) by using technical manuals...then teach them how to run/fix/design/whatever those machines/robots/whatever...then have those kids leave school upon demonstrating proficiency and begin working in their field of training. 50% of the kids coming out of the schools cant do basic math or read now. What is more education going to do for them!
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Post by smsmith on Feb 8, 2017 20:09:38 GMT -6
Ya, that began to change at least 20 years ago. In the next 20 years some sort of education will be far, far more important than it is now. I'm not a fan of teaching every kid Shakespeare however. I'd much prefer to teach "English" to some kids who want it (and their parents) by using technical manuals...then teach them how to run/fix/design/whatever those machines/robots/whatever...then have those kids leave school upon demonstrating proficiency and begin working in their field of training. 50% of the kids coming out of the schools cant do basic math or read now. What is more education going to do for them! You'll have to provide some proof of that. I don't believe it for a minute.
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Post by MoBuckChaser on Feb 8, 2017 20:12:32 GMT -6
50% of the kids coming out of the schools cant do basic math or read now. What is more education going to do for them! You'll have to provide some proof of that. I don't believe it for a minute. Walk up to any kid under 18, take the fucking cell phone away and ask them to divide 987 by 36.......... Or ask them to balance your check book for you........ End of story!
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Post by smsmith on Feb 8, 2017 20:16:43 GMT -6
You'll have to provide some proof of that. I don't believe it for a minute. Walk up to any kid under 18, take the fucking cell phone away and ask them to divide 987 by 36.......... Or ask them to balance your check book for you........ End of story! Those aren't skills that an 18 year old is going to need. Check book? WTF is a check book? Very few people under 35 have check books. Divide? Those kids have a more powerful computer in their hands than we had on our desktops 10 years ago. You're a dinosaur MO, life is changing, we either change with it or get left behind. FWIW...old people have been saying the same things about young people...since there were people
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Post by nhmountains on Feb 8, 2017 20:26:07 GMT -6
Bottom line. Is Whip going to be able to buy a forested chunk of land. Cut it and put it in the MFL?
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Post by MoBuckChaser on Feb 8, 2017 20:34:27 GMT -6
Walk up to any kid under 18, take the fucking cell phone away and ask them to divide 987 by 36.......... Or ask them to balance your check book for you........ End of story! Those aren't skills that an 18 year old is going to need. Check book? WTF is a check book? Very few people under 35 have check books. Divide? Those kids have a more powerful computer in their hands than we had on our desktops 10 years ago. You're a dinosaur MO, life is changing, we either change with it or get left behind. FWIW...old people have been saying the same things about young people...since there were people Old dinosaur? Yep, a fucking rich old dino with a 9th grade education........
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Post by badbrad on Feb 8, 2017 20:37:16 GMT -6
Bottom line. Is Whip going to be able to buy a forested chunk of land. Cut it and put it in the MFL? This ^^^^. Lol.
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