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Post by biglakebass on Jun 9, 2023 19:43:01 GMT -6
Oh dear...... i was looking forward to progress pics. Hope recovery happens.
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Post by Sandbur on Jun 9, 2023 19:43:52 GMT -6
I was thinking of dicamba as well.
I looked today and one tree might have been touched by spray. The others look ok.
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Post by benmnwi on Jun 10, 2023 9:24:26 GMT -6
Man, that really sucks. I was worried about that happening at my place, so that’s when I put my tillable into crp with a couple acres of plots I plant. I was worried someone spraying would screw up and wipe out my orchards.
My farmer at my cabin years ago hired out the spraying on my fields there and they weren’t paying attention and killed 500 trees I planted 2 years earlier. They paid me what I spent on the trees from the dnr, but I should have pushed for more since I lost 2 years.
I think it would be fair to ask for compensation for the damage caused. Then I would look into crp-
In my crp program, you can put 10% of the field in food plots and still get rental income for the plots. You have to plant them at your own expense, but you get the best of both worlds with crp cover and food.
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Post by smsmith on Jun 10, 2023 10:14:55 GMT -6
I was really concerned when the co-op sprayed the corn across the dirt road from my main orchard this year. The wind was blowing towards my trees at 10 mph or more. The spray rig got within maybe 100' of some fruit trees and maybe 75' of some spruce. No damage that I've seen yet...knock on wood
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Post by windgypsy on Jun 10, 2023 11:51:11 GMT -6
I know a dumbass who sprayed weed and feed (2,4-d and a little dicamba + nitrogen) on his lawn next to the apple trees he planted last spring and they looked just like yours Kooch. The apple trees recovered and are looking good now a few weeks later.
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Post by nhmountains on Jun 10, 2023 12:47:39 GMT -6
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Post by Sandbur on Jun 10, 2023 14:10:42 GMT -6
I know my trees are too close to the crop land and I have been lucky so far.
I was just watching rfd channel and they were talking about wind and thermal inversions causing drift.
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Post by benmnwi on Jun 10, 2023 20:25:53 GMT -6
Trees can be tougher than you think though, so I wouldn’t give up just yet. That drift was far enough away that they might pull through if they are well watered.
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Post by chummer16 on Jun 11, 2023 10:43:10 GMT -6
I spent a few hours working in the orchard yesterday. It is interesting to see the different fruit sets. Of trees I planted, Dolgos,Redfield, Wolf River, frostbite have almost 0 apples. Kerr, Franklin, GH, Viola, AWH all have a good amount of fruit. I adjust some stakes and cages and I will say B.118 is dog shit. Even going back to trees planted in 2014 it feels like you could push them right over. All the other rootstocks are anchored good.
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Post by nhmountains on Jun 11, 2023 10:56:43 GMT -6
I spent a few hours working in the orchard yesterday. It is interesting to see the different fruit sets. Of trees I planted, Dolgos,Redfield, Wolf River, frostbite have almost 0 apples. Kerr, Franklin, GH, Viola, AWH all have a good amount of fruit. I adjust some stakes and cages and I will say B.118 is dog shit. Even going back to trees planted in 2014 it feels like you could push them right over. All the other rootstocks are anchored good. I think that's why Cummins ditched the B118 and that "P" rootstock they pushed for years.
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Post by nhmountains on Jun 11, 2023 10:58:41 GMT -6
Would one be better off planting the young grafted trees so the graft Union was below the ground or would that vary from variety to variety?
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Post by benmnwi on Jun 11, 2023 11:21:50 GMT -6
Would one be better off planting the young grafted trees so the graft Union was below the ground or would that vary from variety to variety? Good point- along those lines, I wonder if you could you get an existing b118 tree to grow roots above the graft line if you added a bunch of dirt around the trunk?
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Post by smsmith on Jun 11, 2023 11:30:40 GMT -6
I spent a few hours working in the orchard yesterday. It is interesting to see the different fruit sets. Of trees I planted, Dolgos,Redfield, Wolf River, frostbite have almost 0 apples. Kerr, Franklin, GH, Viola, AWH all have a good amount of fruit. I adjust some stakes and cages and I will say B.118 is dog shit. Even going back to trees planted in 2014 it feels like you could push them right over. All the other rootstocks are anchored good. My Frostbite tree shows a strong biennial tendency. I suppose I should be thinning it more aggressively on the heavy years (like this year). I really like eating Frostbite, so I let it bear too heavily. I've got another tree grafted now so I'm hopeful I can get Frostbite every year. I may graft a couple more down the road too.
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Post by chummer16 on Jun 11, 2023 12:00:13 GMT -6
Would one be better off planting the young grafted trees so the graft Union was below the ground or would that vary from variety to variety? Good point- along those lines, I wonder if you could you get an existing b118 tree to grow roots above the graft line if you added a bunch of dirt around the trunk? I’m going to try it. These trees will never be able handle a heavy load. Might as well find out now.
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Post by Sandbur on Jun 11, 2023 14:14:27 GMT -6
Good point- along those lines, I wonder if you could you get an existing b118 tree to grow roots above the graft line if you added a bunch of dirt around the trunk? I’m going to try it. These trees will never be able handle a heavy load. Might as well find out now. Does injuring the bark stimulate root growth?
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