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Post by smsmith on May 6, 2024 9:12:53 GMT -6
Looks like no spraying for a while. The ground is like a sponge out there. Pretty sure I'd tear my plots into a big mess A couple of my clover plots were dry enough to spray, so I hit them with 1qt/acre gly a bit ago. I have my doubts about that weak of a dose doing anything to established perennial weeds. We'll find out I guess. Edit..I just went out and threw down a Frosty berseem/ladino/white dutch/medium red/forage collard mix on the plots I sprayed this morning. It'll either be an epic failure or some really nice plots (if the rains keep coming)
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Post by smsmith on May 17, 2024 16:43:50 GMT -6
1 qt/acre did really well cleaning up my plots...but now I've got summer annual weeds and grasses germinating. Lambsquarters, pigweed, panic grass, bindweed, and some others.
Either ignore it all or hit it with IMOX and give up on the collards that are also germinating.
Maybe I should just start fishing instead
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Post by sd51555 on May 17, 2024 19:43:33 GMT -6
I tried a dose of sethoxydim last week on a spot. Conditions were perfect. Wonder if it'll work.
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Post by smsmith on May 17, 2024 19:51:22 GMT -6
I tried a dose of sethoxydim last week on a spot. Conditions were perfect. Wonder if it'll work. Poast(seth) sucks more than cleth in my experience. I'll be interested to hear how it does for you. edit...Thinking about cleth vs. seth brought back some memories from many years ago. I remember discussing both chemicals with Paul Knox at a (gasp) QDMA field day in NW IL back around '08 or so. He was using Poast on his wife's flower beds back then as I recall, but was starting to figure out cleth was likely better on established perennial grasses. We talked crimson clover vs. berseem clover and long season brassicas vs. short season as well. What a great day that was. RIP Paul
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Post by benmnwi on May 17, 2024 20:52:42 GMT -6
I lightly disked up my weedy clover a week ago, but It will take another pass or two in the coming weeks.
The grass was thick there and it was tough for the 3 point disk to dig through. I haven’t decided what to plant here when this is dug up, but I’m leaning towards a brassica mix for a year before going back to a clover/alfalfa/chicory mix again.
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Post by sd51555 on May 17, 2024 22:20:48 GMT -6
I tried a dose of sethoxydim last week on a spot. Conditions were perfect. Wonder if it'll work. Poast(seth) sucks more than cleth in my experience. I'll be interested to hear how it does for you. edit...Thinking about cleth vs. seth brought back some memories from many years ago. I remember discussing both chemicals with Paul Knox at a (gasp) QDMA field day in NW IL back around '08 or so. He was using Poast on his wife's flower beds back then as I recall, but was starting to figure out cleth was likely better on established perennial grasses. We talked crimson clover vs. berseem clover and long season brassicas vs. short season as well. What a great day that was. RIP Paul I tried poast once almost 20 years ago on foxtail at my dad's. Never touched it, but the foxtail was nothing but stems by then and the shit came out of the ground with a seed head on it. I had read it was less effective than cleth too, so I went around full rate to see how it goes. I'm gonna wait another week before I make an opinion. I've got a banner stand of chicory in there and I don't want to lose it. This was on my spot in the plot where I first ever buried logs, stumps, and all the tag alder brush that stood in that spot before I got to working on it. All that lumber has been under that plot for 5 years in a never broken green system since. The deer love that spot, and there's gonna be a shitload of mushrooms pushing up out of it this spring with the rain finally coming after 3 years of dust. There's still a little wood showing in places, but it's not heaving out or causing problems for mowing. I figure it's all a ramen noodle cake of roots under there now that nothing's ever gonna move again.
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Post by smsmith on May 18, 2024 16:38:51 GMT -6
1 qt/acre did really well cleaning up my plots...but now I've got summer annual weeds and grasses germinating. Lambsquarters, pigweed, panic grass, bindweed, and some others. Either ignore it all or hit it with IMOX and give up on the collards that are also germinating. Maybe I should just start fishing instead Thinking I'm going to hit the grasses with cleth and either hand pull the broadleaf weeds or ignore them. There does come a time when turning the soil over a few inches is probably better than increased herbicide use. I'm about to that point
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Post by benmnwi on May 18, 2024 20:19:10 GMT -6
I took my disk to my weeds clover an hour ago since I had a little free time. The grassy clover was thick enough that the disk only went in an inch or two in most areas, so it is hard to say how it will work. I wanted to dig it up a bit before the rain hits tomorrow night (hopefully the rain comes).
I might spray around the apple tree trunks with clethodim or light round up, but I’m not sure yet. Just a few years ago it was a nice deer clover/alfalfa mix right up to the trunks and now grass took over close to the trees.
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