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Post by Foggy on Feb 22, 2023 16:53:15 GMT -6
I think I paid $18 for a 56 lb bushel at Welters....and got a 3% February discount. Figured it was going to be hard to beat those numbers. Seems lots of sellers are now selling 59 lb bags. that alone is 12% change in price. Sneaky.
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Post by smsmith on Feb 22, 2023 17:45:02 GMT -6
I think I paid $18 for a 56 lb bushel at Welters....and got a 3% February discount. Figured it was going to be hard to beat those numbers. Seems lots of sellers are now selling 59 lb bags. that alone is 12% change in price. Sneaky. The cheapest I see at Welters is $19 a bag and that's for "winter rye". If that's the same "winter rye" I got from Eagle Bend co-op it'll grow great, and maybe bring in a bunch of weed seed. The rye they advertise as being a replacement for Aroostook (ND Gardner Winter Rye) is $23.75 per 56 lb. bushel. That'd be certified seed without a bunch of weed seed. Seems a fair price for the ND Gardner. I wouldn't buy the stuff they just call "winter rye" unless they assured me it had the same weed seed content as the certified stuff. edit..you're right about Welters selling 56 lb. bags and AL seed selling 50 lb. bags
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Post by biglakebass on Feb 22, 2023 18:08:05 GMT -6
I am not on a certified list, and my rye has been awesome.
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Post by smsmith on Feb 22, 2023 18:15:18 GMT -6
I am not on a certified list, and my rye has been awesome. So was my $8 rye from Eagle Bend. Unfortunately, it also came with a metric shitton of hemp nettle seed that I've been fighting for years now.
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Post by biglakebass on Feb 22, 2023 18:16:04 GMT -6
I got lucky I guess.
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Post by Foggy on Feb 22, 2023 22:14:03 GMT -6
I think I paid $18 for a 56 lb bushel at Welters....and got a 3% February discount. Figured it was going to be hard to beat those numbers. Seems lots of sellers are now selling 59 lb bags. that alone is 12% change in price. Sneaky. The cheapest I see at Welters is $19 a bag and that's for "winter rye". If that's the same "winter rye" I got from Eagle Bend co-op it'll grow great, and maybe bring in a bunch of weed seed. The rye they advertise as being a replacement for Aroostook (ND Gardner Winter Rye) is $23.75 per 56 lb. bushel. That'd be certified seed without a bunch of weed seed. Seems a fair price for the ND Gardner. I wouldn't buy the stuff they just call "winter rye" unless they assured me it had the same weed seed content as the certified stuff. edit..you're right about Welters selling 56 lb. bags and AL seed selling 50 lb. bags Dammit....your right about that rye I bought. I think I got some ideas mixed up from one company to the other.....and I bought (and paid for) the VNS and uncertified winter rye. I may have to live with my mistake at this point. Gonna sleep on it......but, I guess I will call them and make a change to certified seeds. The possibility of adding new weed sources is not worth the savings in price. (24 bags at $5 / bag = more potential grief than it's worth) Edit: once again I am reminded of the sign my dad had on his office wall: "If you want good clean oats.....you must pay a fair price. But, If you can be satisfied with oats that have already passed through our horses.....well, that comes a little cheaper."
^ I think I still have that sign packed away in the basement. I may dig it out....and put it on my wall. .
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Post by Sandbur on Feb 23, 2023 5:26:23 GMT -6
The cheapest I see at Welters is $19 a bag and that's for "winter rye". If that's the same "winter rye" I got from Eagle Bend co-op it'll grow great, and maybe bring in a bunch of weed seed. The rye they advertise as being a replacement for Aroostook (ND Gardner Winter Rye) is $23.75 per 56 lb. bushel. That'd be certified seed without a bunch of weed seed. Seems a fair price for the ND Gardner. I wouldn't buy the stuff they just call "winter rye" unless they assured me it had the same weed seed content as the certified stuff. edit..you're right about Welters selling 56 lb. bags and AL seed selling 50 lb. bags Dammit....your right about that rye I bought. I think I got some ideas mixed up from one company to the other.....and I bought (and paid for) the VNS and uncertified winter rye. I may have to live with my mistake at this point. Gonna sleep on it......but, I guess I will call them and make a change to certified seeds. The possibility of adding new weed sources is not worth the savings in price. (24 bags at $5 / bag = more potential grief than it's worth) Edit: once again I am reminded of the sign my dad had on his office wall: "If you want good clean oats.....you must pay a fair price. But, If you can be satisfied with oats that have already passed through our horses.....well, that comes a little cheaper."
^ I think I still have that sign packed away in the basement. I may dig it out....and put it on my wall. .
But foggy, that second time around oats makes dang good fertilizer. I think animal ag and good soil consultants has made my area very strong in agriculture. Some feel these soils shouldn’t be farmed but the world does need food. On a side note, I had a very small foodplot in the woods north of foggy on virgin soil. It was very clean with no noxious weeds. Then I hauled in a bag of compost from Walmart. I got thistle and an abundance of crap. Foggy, if your plots are fairly clean, try and keep it that way. Where I live, we have lots of weed pressure with all of the different things being fed to our dairy, beef, chicken, turkey, and hog producers. Then bedding and manure are spread or injected into the fields.
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Post by smsmith on Feb 23, 2023 6:45:05 GMT -6
The cheapest I see at Welters is $19 a bag and that's for "winter rye". If that's the same "winter rye" I got from Eagle Bend co-op it'll grow great, and maybe bring in a bunch of weed seed. The rye they advertise as being a replacement for Aroostook (ND Gardner Winter Rye) is $23.75 per 56 lb. bushel. That'd be certified seed without a bunch of weed seed. Seems a fair price for the ND Gardner. I wouldn't buy the stuff they just call "winter rye" unless they assured me it had the same weed seed content as the certified stuff. edit..you're right about Welters selling 56 lb. bags and AL seed selling 50 lb. bags Dammit....your right about that rye I bought. I think I got some ideas mixed up from one company to the other.....and I bought (and paid for) the VNS and uncertified winter rye. I may have to live with my mistake at this point. Gonna sleep on it......but, I guess I will call them and make a change to certified seeds. The possibility of adding new weed sources is not worth the savings in price. (24 bags at $5 / bag = more potential grief than it's worth) Edit: once again I am reminded of the sign my dad had on his office wall: "If you want good clean oats.....you must pay a fair price. But, If you can be satisfied with oats that have already passed through our horses.....well, that comes a little cheaper."
^ I think I still have that sign packed away in the basement. I may dig it out....and put it on my wall. .
It would be a worth call to Welter's anyway. If they can confirm the weed seed content is next to nil, then go ahead with the less expensive seed.
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Post by nitro27 on Mar 2, 2023 15:19:46 GMT -6
Take a guess!! Got seed today, 33lbs!
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Post by biglakebass on Mar 2, 2023 15:44:56 GMT -6
round up ready?
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Post by nitro27 on Mar 2, 2023 15:49:48 GMT -6
Yes the seed is Roundup Ready...
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Post by Foggy on Mar 2, 2023 16:40:16 GMT -6
Nitro.....have you ever used sugar beets as a part of a mix?
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Post by nitro27 on Mar 2, 2023 16:58:06 GMT -6
Only time I've used sugar beets (not RR) as part of a mix is when I purchased Beasty Feast from RJ hunt Seed. That mix doesn't for me produce beet bulbs but does provide forage for deer. It is planted mid to late July. Plenty of time for the radish and turnips to grow quite large, but not the beets.
If you want bulbs(beets) you've got to plant it alone and keep the weeds down in my experience. I watched many deer consume the greens after a freeze, they seem to inhale them. The deer will eat the bulbs whenever they get a chance, will dig the frozen ones out of the ground.
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Post by Foggy on Mar 8, 2023 8:57:56 GMT -6
I got a phone call from a Truck Driver about an hour ago......he said he had three pallets of seeds for me. Same driver as about a week ago......when I refused the delivery. I refused the seeds again. No way to unload those seeds here....and somebody has screwed up.
I called to Welters. Gave them the info and the Driver phone number. Not sure what is going on with them? Somebody there is costing them allot of shipping costs. A shame.
EDIT: Welters called me back. Seems the driver is pretty screwed up. The have been re-shipping this same original shipment of seed around.....and he now "thinks" he has 3 pallets. I'm glad I called Welters.....this is somewhat of a debacle....and I hate to see it cost them too much money for their mistake. Chit happens.
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Post by terrifictom on Mar 8, 2023 12:48:41 GMT -6
I got a phone call from a Truck Driver about an hour ago......he said he had three pallets of seeds for me. Same driver as about a week ago......when I refused the delivery. I refused the seeds again. No way to unload those seeds here....and somebody has screwed up. I called to Welters. Gave them the info and the Driver phone number. Not sure what is going on with them? Somebody there is costing them allot of shipping costs. A shame. EDIT: Welters called me back. Seems the driver is pretty screwed up. The have been re-shipping this same original shipment of seed around.....and he now "thinks" he has 3 pallets. I'm glad I called Welters.....this is somewhat of a debacle....and I hate to see it cost them too much money for their mistake. Chit happens. My guess is when you refused it the 1st time it was returned to trucking company's warehouse instead of returning it to Welters. The trucking company than tried to deliver it again. Surprised that Welters didn't offer the Trucking company some money to hold it in their warehouse until the date you originally wanted it delivered.
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