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MN CWD
Jun 18, 2017 9:28:16 GMT -6
Post by smsmith on Jun 18, 2017 9:28:16 GMT -6
CJD is the human version of CWD..Creutzfeldt Jakob Disease
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MN CWD
Jun 18, 2017 11:32:50 GMT -6
Post by batman on Jun 18, 2017 11:32:50 GMT -6
Cattle and hogs are eating grains with prions in them. Reports say plants can uptake prions and successfully pass them to animals that consume them. Do cattle and hogs have CWD prions in their meat?
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MN CWD
Jun 18, 2017 11:40:05 GMT -6
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Post by biglakebass on Jun 18, 2017 11:40:05 GMT -6
What about chickens? Veggies?
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MN CWD
Jun 18, 2017 11:47:26 GMT -6
Post by wklman on Jun 18, 2017 11:47:26 GMT -6
I guess there's risk in everything we do or eat. Just depends on how far a guy wants to take it.
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MN CWD
Jun 18, 2017 13:09:49 GMT -6
Post by sd51555 on Jun 18, 2017 13:09:49 GMT -6
This whole thing just irritates me. I can't help but fret a little over whether my property will become worthless if deer hunting goes away. There is no other real use that could hold up that land value.
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MN CWD
Jun 18, 2017 15:18:00 GMT -6
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Post by biglakebass on Jun 18, 2017 15:18:00 GMT -6
If there isnt tillable. And worthless for hunting. Whats left? Pasture land?
Not sure who will pay top dollar for land to bird watch.
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MN CWD
Jun 19, 2017 21:33:40 GMT -6
Post by mnfish on Jun 19, 2017 21:33:40 GMT -6
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MN CWD
Jun 19, 2017 21:47:41 GMT -6
Post by biglakebass on Jun 19, 2017 21:47:41 GMT -6
"All the animals were destroyed and the facility was disinfected. " Disinfected? ?
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MN CWD
Jun 19, 2017 22:01:14 GMT -6
Post by sd51555 on Jun 19, 2017 22:01:14 GMT -6
More BS. Just more BS.
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Post by mnfish on Jun 19, 2017 22:07:02 GMT -6
The state agency (DNR) is tasked with the management of the wild animals. The Iowa DNR was infringing on a private land owners rights and had no legal bases to tell the landowner what they could or could not do with their land.
I really appreciate the quote where the Iowa DNR says how much a deer herd is worth to the state...300 million. They are overstepping their bounds, forsure, on landowner rights. But they put a value on the whitetail deer. Never hear anything like that from Lou.
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MN CWD
Jun 19, 2017 22:17:12 GMT -6
Post by mnfish on Jun 19, 2017 22:17:12 GMT -6
From the case:
Attorney: And what has been the impact on the herd, overall herd, from the infection rate?
Mike Miller: Overall, at a large scale, so at a population level it's been difficult to demonstrate any effect over the period of time. But we've studied the disease and followed the numbers, in part because there are a number of other things that influence particularly deer population dynamics a lot more than a disease like this would in the short-term: weather events, our own hunting practices, predation.
BY JUDGE PALMER: I had a couple of questions for you. I understand that Chronic Wasting Disease is this prion disease which affects the protein, an abnormal protein is created. Where did the disease originate? Did it originate in Canada?
Mike Miller: No. At least they would take umbrage with that, I believe, Your Honor. No one knows. I mean the honest-to-goodness answer is that no one knows. The first cases -- The syndrome itself was described originally in Colorado. Whether it truly started there or not is an open question, and whether it started in the wild or in captivity initially -- The first cases were described in captivity, but considering the likelihood of seeing something like that and recognizing it consistently in captivity versus in the wild, that makes sense. Whether it's a disease that originated in deer or elk and has always been there at some low level for a long time or whether this is the disease of sheep scrapie that had somehow moved itself into deer is -- You know, those are also possibilities. I have ideas about that, but I don't have any better proof for one than another.
Attorney: Then, finally, do you know generally how the IDALS responds to a scrapies outbreak?
Dr. Dave Schmitt: They -- if they find a positive, they depopulate the herd, they indemnify, and then the scrapies people or the sheep people just repopulate that same pasture with sheep again. There's no time limit for quarantine on the ground.
Attorney: And to your understanding, scrapies is in the same family of diseases as CWD?
Dr. Dave Schmitt: Yes, it is. It's a TSE.
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Post by biglakebass on Jun 19, 2017 22:18:07 GMT -6
Iowa has approximately 400,000 deer, and they value it at 300 mill. MN has about 1,000.000 deer and the value is?
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MN CWD
Jun 20, 2017 9:38:57 GMT -6
Post by leexrayshady on Jun 20, 2017 9:38:57 GMT -6
Iowa values each deer at $750 so our deer should be valued at $750,000,000
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Post by sd51555 on Jun 20, 2017 18:33:59 GMT -6
Iowa values each deer at $750 so our deer should be valued at $750,000,000 Ours are running at about a -$2500. You have to count the loss of life from car accidents, the farmer suicides from crop depredation, the thousands of forestry jobs lost to excessive browsing, devastation to the gulf of mexico because of forestry run off, carbon belched into the atmosphere by deer farts, ground nesting birds eaten by deer, hybridizing CWD into bovine tuberculosis, lost work days and health care costs of lyme disease, forest soil compaction, wolf population instability, moose genocide, poor sturgeon spawning, and increased wildberry pie costs at Betty's in Two Harbors. Women and minorities hardest hit.
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MN CWD
Jun 26, 2017 12:11:34 GMT -6
Post by mnfish on Jun 26, 2017 12:11:34 GMT -6
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