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Post by Sandbur on Feb 15, 2021 5:10:27 GMT -6
It all depends on how sandy the sand is and also on rainfall and even on exposure to the sun and wind.
Just a bit of topsoil helps versus all sand dunes. Shade from the west side can allow some red clover to do better than completely exposed locations.
I planted buckwheat one year. I guess it doesn’t pay to fight what is known to work, but I haven’t planted any since. I have soils from blow sand through 18 inches of topsoil and I just give up on the blow sand.
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Post by badbrad on Feb 15, 2021 7:24:52 GMT -6
Stuff that grows in sand. Buckwheat, oats, red clover if you get enough rain, soybeans, winter rye, sunflowers, WGF sorghum. Actually, most anything will grow in sand IF it gets consistent rain. In central WI they grow some great corn on light sand with pivot irrigation (and I assume fertigation) Yes lots of irrigation in my area. Most fields are
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Post by badbrad on Feb 15, 2021 7:29:05 GMT -6
You’re in the big woods with little food and heavy soils right ? Does that translate ? Just asking I've got difficult soils and haven't been able to outgrow their stomachs yet. That's our common denominator. If you see your soil is sandy without testing it, its probably very sandy, which means it's going to be hit or miss with annuals because of weather. The other thing I'd consider is, what will it take to be the best food in the area? You gonna hunt this all season, or just when you're not at the cabin? The goal for this is to just have fun. I'm sure the boys will shoot some deer here. Mabye I'll hunt a little. But watching them from the deck with a glass of whiskey in hand sounds nice too. Depends on the year for crops. Lots of potatos in the area so not really deer foot. Farmer behind here has planted corn past two years. But that is harvested by November.
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Post by badbrad on Feb 15, 2021 7:34:04 GMT -6
Foggy Ben and Art, What kind of CEC are you guys dealing with? Just wondering how light your soil is to compare to mine when I get a soil test results.
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Post by smsmith on Feb 15, 2021 7:34:39 GMT -6
Stuff that grows in sand. Buckwheat, oats, red clover if you get enough rain, soybeans, winter rye, sunflowers, WGF sorghum. Actually, most anything will grow in sand IF it gets consistent rain. In central WI they grow some great corn on light sand with pivot irrigation (and I assume fertigation) Yes lots of irrigation in my area. Most fields are How deep is your well?
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Post by badbrad on Feb 15, 2021 7:36:44 GMT -6
Yes lots of irrigation in my area. Most fields are How deep is your well? No clue. I think its only a sand point but not sure to be honest due to the small size of the casing. All I know is my nitrates are high here.
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Post by smsmith on Feb 15, 2021 7:40:08 GMT -6
No clue. I think its only a sand point but not sure to be honest due to the small size of the casing. All I know is my nitrates are high here. That's why I was asking. High nitrates in the sand counties of WI are really common. My folks ended up putting in a cased well and went down around 70' as I recall. Once they did that, their water quality was much improved. So was their volume of water. Lots of sand points have gone dry in those irrigated areas too.
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Post by badbrad on Feb 15, 2021 7:41:58 GMT -6
No clue. I think its only a sand point but not sure to be honest due to the small size of the casing. All I know is my nitrates are high here. That's why I was asking. High nitrates in the sand counties of WI are really common. My folks ended up putting in a cased well and went down around 70' as I recall. Once they did that, their water quality was much improved. So was their volume of water. Lots of sand points have gone dry in those irrigated areas too. Yep. We use reverse osmosis for drinking water. Just curious. How much did that well cost them?
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Post by smsmith on Feb 15, 2021 7:47:26 GMT -6
That's why I was asking. High nitrates in the sand counties of WI are really common. My folks ended up putting in a cased well and went down around 70' as I recall. Once they did that, their water quality was much improved. So was their volume of water. Lots of sand points have gone dry in those irrigated areas too. Yep. We use reverse osmosis for drinking water. Just curious. How much did that well cost them? I don't recall off hand, they put it in back around 2000-'03. Wouldn't matter what they paid back then anyway I suppose. One thing with putting in a well in the sand counties...you put it wherever you want it because you're gonna hit water and it's super easy drilling.
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Post by badbrad on Feb 15, 2021 7:53:27 GMT -6
Anyways back to planting shit for deer. I see mention of a lot of red clovers. Does red do better than white?
Stu do you think the Balansa would do well here? You like that stuff right.
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Post by Catscratch on Feb 15, 2021 8:41:05 GMT -6
Maybe a silly question, but have you considered sweet potatoes for a fall/winter deer plot? You mentioned potatoes were the main ag crop. If the area is suited to potatoes why not just go that route but with one deer like?
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Post by badbrad on Feb 15, 2021 8:42:24 GMT -6
Maybe a silly question, but have you considered sweet potatoes for a fall/winter deer plot? You mentioned potatoes were the main ag crop. If the area is suited to potatoes why not just go that route but with one deer like? Potatoes need irrigation I believe.
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Post by Sandbur on Feb 15, 2021 8:52:17 GMT -6
Foggy Ben and Art, What kind of CEC are you guys dealing with? Just wondering how light your soil is to compare to mine when I get a soil test results. There are lots of potatoes on the land west of me and it is irrigated. I have no idea what CEC is. I haven’t done a soil test in one or two decades. My renter uses a crop consultant, so I don’t worry about it for my foodplots. I still say, plant oats and rye and keep it simple.
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Post by badbrad on Feb 15, 2021 8:54:47 GMT -6
Foggy Ben and Art, What kind of CEC are you guys dealing with? Just wondering how light your soil is to compare to mine when I get a soil test results. There are lots of potatoes on the land west of me and it is irrigated. I have no idea what CEC is. I haven’t done a soil test in one or two decades. My renter uses a crop consultant, so I don’t worry about it for my foodplots. I still say, plant oats and rye and keep it simple. CEC is cation exchange capacity. It is the value of how heavy or light of ground you have. Higher the number the the heavier your soil.
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Post by sd51555 on Feb 15, 2021 9:19:11 GMT -6
If you’re in tater country, you damn sandy dawg.
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